01-02-2019, 08:33 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Druidic healing
How unbalancing is it if I let druids have access to healing spells? I usually run games for small groups of 3-4 players. We've never yet had anyone choose to play both a cleric and a druid. Often, if someone doesn't want to play a battle-mage, there is a pressure to play a cleric because of their healing abilities. By allowing druids to have the healing spells too, this might broaden their appeal. But I haven't looked things over carefully. Would that rebalance things to the point that they no sensible munchkin would choose cleric over druid?
I will probably reskin the spells a bit so I could also nerf them. Perhaps they require a longer casting time ("applying sacred mud") so they can't really be cast in combat. This would give an edge to clerics. Or is Herb Lore good enough and I just have druids carry around wineskins of healing potions? (In effect, I suppose the latter is about the same as nerfing the healing spells. Both are slower than a cleric. The spells trade FP for HP and the potions trade $.) Just musing here. Love to hear if others have played around with this. |
01-02-2019, 08:57 AM | #2 | ||
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Something I've also done is allowed Holy Might as a "half stand-in" for Power Investiture. It's treated as Power Investiture except it doesn't add to spells, this allowed a Holy Warrior in one game to pick up some useful "not during combat spells" (like Light, Healing, etc) in a game where no one wanted to play a Cleric. Quote:
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01-02-2019, 11:28 AM | #3 | |
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In retrospect, I kind of regret it. As the evile donkey says, no one I know of plays druids for the munchkin factor. |
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01-02-2019, 11:31 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Re: Druidic healing
You wouldn't balk at letting them learn a shield or Two-handed Axe or how to pick locks if they wanted. I think the spells of other professions should be similarly available. I'm not sure if I'd make them available under the Druid's casting advantage or perhaps I'd limit access to the more powerful Cleric spells under it.
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01-02-2019, 01:08 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Re: Druidic healing
I don't think that it would be imbalanced at all and so long as no one else is upset that the druid is stealing their limelight, no problem. It's not how I'd do it though, I think that it might damage the cool wilderness expert thing that they have going on if they /don't/ have to pre-prepare potions and poultices or otherwise hunt through the underbrush for just the right thing for the job.
I do agree that their healing leaves a bit to be fesired though. Off the top of my head, I might try either: - 1 free Gizmo per rank of PI Druid (or maybe a spellcaster perk?) to pull out some herbs and chew them up into a poultice/ steep in water/ whatever to instantly produce a potion with an Herb Lore roll (-1 for every 100$ cost?) or - Increase the paltry 1d-3 HP min 1 you get from bandaging if you're using Esoteric Medicine. Maybe a Weapon Master-like effect wouldn't be so bad? For in-conbat healing, maybe a special perk to pull potions out faster? Potions being unreliable can also be frustrating if you've spent a few turns pulling one out inly to come up ones. Alternate potions with flat healing or a way to add a flat amount? 1d+3 is a lot safer than 2d Last edited by Expy; 01-02-2019 at 01:19 PM. |
01-02-2019, 05:24 PM | #7 | |
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Druids who can heal as well as Clerics may infringe on their niche but that is not important if no one wants to play a cleric anyhow. But from the clerics point of view another healer frees up options for the cleric, which should be able to do more than just heal after a fight anyhow.
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01-02-2019, 08:33 PM | #8 | ||||||
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Re: Druidic healing
Perfect. This is what I figured, but it's always good to hear from others that I'm not yanking the keystone from the DF arch. Some specific responses below.
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I like the idea of herbs and chewed bark and mud poultices better than a simple discount on the same old healing potions that everyone else can buy. Hmm. Quote:
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One flavor piece I was toying with also is the idea that druidic healing—whether by spell or first aid or potion—is more natural than clerical healing (or, at least, that's how druids spin it). I imagine that when a cleric heals a wound, the wound closes up as if it had never happened. Perfect, unblemished skin. That's not how natural healing works: flesh develops scar tissue, trees have burls, herbaceous plants develop kinks, etc. So druidic healing may leave more evidence. This might automatically place druids in a slightly lower caste in the healing hierarchy, and may be another reason they are less associated with civilization. The King's Court keeps clerics on staff for healing, never druids. Not sure that I would have any rules around this, but just offer up physical quirks and appearance disads as especially plausible for druids and those that they care for. Last edited by Dalin; 01-02-2019 at 08:37 PM. Reason: Cleaned up unexpected linebreaks and some typos. |
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01-03-2019, 08:12 AM | #9 |
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Re: Druidic healing
Another wonky idea, based on a suggestion from my six-year-old daughter (who is designing a druid): a druid might have special vipers that can inject healing potion. Keeps them in a basket; sends them in to bite PCs in combat who need a boost. (Though we'd need some exposed flesh, wouldn't we?)
Didn't D&D druids often use darts as weapons back in the old days? What if the darts injected magic healing juice? Silly, but could work in a certain kind of cinematic game. |
01-03-2019, 08:36 AM | #10 |
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: Druidic healing
This sort of thinking leads inevitably to discarding sabot snake ammunition for a variety of missile weapons, so it must be encouraged.
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