What would be the skills to obtain sovereignty?

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by johndallman

That's an enormous station, with a mass of at least a million tons. You can't build the fabrication and launch facilities you need for it in two years unless the world is already TL10 before you start.

We should focus on the subject of the thread, but I will answer as a mere theoretical exercise:

Three millions of tons actually. With a 600 billions of dollars nanofactory, which is available by TL11, you will be manufacturing 3 billions of dollars worth of goods an hour (TL8 x20) or 150 tons (only for replicators).

Knowing this and the spaceport price of 380 billions of dollars, you can deduce with a simple division that it will take less than 130 hours (less than six days) to build it, as long as the factory is exclusively dedicated to the project and running 24 hours a day. If we now assume that the factory allocates one percent of its capacity to the project, that will be about 540 days. That's less than a year and a half.

Knowing this and the spaceport weight of 3 million tons, you can deduce with a simple division that it will take exactly 20,000 hours (about 834 days) to build it, as long as the factory is exclusively dedicated to the project and running 24 hours a day. Therefore, your corporation with assets of several trillions of dollars must have at least two factories, which cuts down the time to 417 days or just a bit more than a year. And this way is apparently reserved for a specific technology: Replicators, which you are not using.

[Þorkell]

Historically the skills used to obtain sovereignty have been violence of various sorts. If a region didn't want to be part of a larger entity they rebelled and made it severely annoying for the larger entity to keep hold of the region. There have been exceptions, but the general trend has been violence for some years followed by negotiations.

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by whswhs

Once again you are using the assets they putatively have when they are two TLs ahead to justify their being able to get into the position of being two TLs ahead.

Do not worry about that, I've already told you that it's not like that, the corporation is the merger of Apple, Alphabet, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. and with offering level 8 technologies to the public, it has more than enough, as reality shows us.

[Donny Brook]

Originally Posted by ericthered

Making the sovereignty reside with the coorporation itself will be hard.

It's fundamentally incompatitble. Being a corporation MEANS being an entity that exists under the terms of statutes created by a state.

[Alonsua]

Originally Posted by Donny Brook

It's fundamentally incompatitble. Being a corporation MEANS being an entity that exists under the terms of statutes created by a state.

It is about the transition from the corporation form to a corporate state.

[Daigoro]

You could say instead that the space station is declaring sovereignty, and not the corp itself.

[Donny Brook]

Originally Posted by Daigoro

You could say instead that the space station is declaring sovereignty, and not the corp itself.

I think that is the more correct formulation. Under the right circumstances a space station could meet the criteria of statehood (provided 'territory' can be interpreted liberally enough). But it would not necessarily provide the corporation that created/owns the station what the OP might be hoping for.

[Daigoro]

That would be a possible legal fiction, but what difference would it make in practice? Would Sovereign Space Station Alpha be able to enact laws or take actions that would conflict with the interests of Not-Quite Sovereign Inc?

[Donny Brook]

Originally Posted by Daigoro

That would be a possible legal fiction, but what difference would it make in practice? Would Sovereign Space Station Alpha be able to enact laws or take actions that would conflict with the interests of Not-Quite Sovereign Inc?

That's a very situational question. A corporate oppressor that controls the station's government might find itself sanctioned or disestablished as a corporate entity among Earth-side states that find it objectionable.

[hal]

Originally Posted by Alonsua

Do not worry about that, I've already told you that it's not like that, the corporation is the merger of Apple, Alphabet, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. and with offering level 8 technologies to the public, it has more than enough, as reality shows us.

While I can appreciate what you're trying to do, there are some minor issues involved - and by minor, the real issue is that you're trying to tell a story vs the issue of whether or not the elements of the story are going to make sense.

What you're proposing above, violates the recent activity that has been ongoing in Europe as well as the events that have been transpiring within the United States. To wit: The realization that privacy is being turned into a product, and that product is on sale to any who want it. Europe enacted a series of laws aimed at curbing some of those invasions of privacy. The United States is starting to wake up to that issue as well. Organizations such as Facebook and Twitter are now facing backlash against some of their heavy handed behavior. What will come of THAT is open to conjecture.

In the end? LOGAN'S RUN was a story. Was it realistic? Not particularly. Was it entertaining? It had its moments. Was it a cautionary tale? Sure.

My take on this thread? You have a story you wish to present. You want to clean up some of the rough edges and went with the convention that multiple minds combined do a better job than one mind alone.

If you want, get a hold of GURPS ILLUMINATI - because what you're proposing is in reality, a form of a world wide illuminati - the concentration of power in the hands of a few, a few whose legal powers are little, but whose REAL power lies in their use of their economic power (ie wealth) and secrecy.