01-13-2009, 07:39 PM | #11 |
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Re: [Mass Combat] Statting a fantasy army
As far as I can see, Mass Combat never punishes a unit for being cavalry, except insofar as they have a higher cost and weight due to their mounts. Bad terrain or siege negates the benefits of being cavalry, but doesn't cut into their ability to contribute TS to the line of battle.
If you sent the Dragoons campaigning without their horses, you'd need a new template, but you'd only do that for logistical or transport reasons. You could treat them as bowmen, though that might seems to understate their lethality on foot. Anachronistic line infantry with base upkeep at 8-10k? |
01-13-2009, 07:51 PM | #12 |
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Re: [Mass Combat] Statting a fantasy army
Fortunately, I think the MC system allows for additional element types to be created without unbalancing anything. With a specific set of information for particular archetypes.
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They are still resistant to using the crossbows, though, since those are a new development. The regular infantry is much better with their crossbows.
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01-13-2009, 08:33 PM | #14 |
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It sounds almost like you want them to have an F troop strength different from their basic/cav troop strength.
Are these infantry crossbow units distinct from the other infantry units? Since none of those got statted as F-capable. Rabiddave, I don't think a mounted rifle unit gets extra strength from dismounting. The description says they normally dismount to fight. I think the riflemen element is just more men... |
01-13-2009, 08:39 PM | #15 | |
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01-13-2009, 08:59 PM | #16 | |
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By the Napoleonic Wars, dragoons in every army had evolved into conventional light or medium cavalry. They were issued carbines and were notionally supposed to be able to fight on foot, but in fact were never used thus; most dragoons threw away their carbines as useless weight and kept their sabers. I'd suggest that cavalry and infantry fighting skills are almost mutually exclusive; and that unless your dragoon regiment are elites with extremely high levels of training then they need to concentrate on being either primarily cavalry or primarily infantry; and that if they try to split the difference they'll just end up being crappy at both.
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01-13-2009, 09:23 PM | #17 |
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Re: [Mass Combat] Statting a fantasy army
I was just about to characterize the 'mounted infantry' dragoons as infantry unit + mount unit. Which is why the mount unit is there. But I noticed something very odd...
Compare the 'Mount' unit to the 'Draft Team' unit. Mounts cost 6 times as much to raise and 12 times as much to maintain, in exchange for being exactly half of the same unit. Oh, and the special regiment probably should be implemented as Super Soldiers with at least good equipment and probably good troop quality, despite their limited formation training. Probably with mixed element types, since elements are quite small and adventurers quite diverse. |
01-13-2009, 10:29 PM | #18 | |
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01-13-2009, 10:32 PM | #19 | |
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Didn't Harold's Huscarls ride horses up to that battle immediately prior to Hastings. Stanford Bridge? And then fight on foot? |
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01-13-2009, 10:35 PM | #20 | |
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