02-10-2019, 05:37 PM | #31 | |
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02-11-2019, 04:50 PM | #32 | ||
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I expect the reason a Succubus has Contact Agent instead of Blood Agent is so that they can target men, because the usual fashion would not involve contact with his mucous membrane, only the demon's (blood-agent: reversed) however since Succubi don't have blood agent, reversed, they could simply use their hands... but since they don't have "sense-based, touch, reversed" it doesn't have to be their hands, it could be their elbows or knees or whatever. |
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02-11-2019, 10:07 PM | #33 |
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Re: Sexual Abilities
The urethral opening of the penis is a mucus membrane, so unprotected sex counts for Blood Agent.
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02-12-2019, 12:41 PM | #34 | |
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Also, keep in mind that "Only while having sex" does drastically limit the effectiveness of an ability. Healing, with Blood Agent, you could put your hands into an injury and heal the injury during combat. With "Only while having sex" and Blood Agent, you can't really do that during combat . . . unless you're into that sort of thing. No judgement, it's just a rare fetish. While it may not be as annoying (to others) as only while playing the trumpet, it is harder to pull off, requires a second (or more) person(s) (who may be illegal to have sex with), takes a bit of time (when done right), and can get you into a lot of trouble (social or legal) if you're caught. And the cost in cigarettes could also be crippling. The majority of people aren't going to want to engage in sexual activities in public, or even out of doors. At least in America, the population is remarkably prudish to public displays of sex, when it's not in the movies. Just because you're an exhibitionist doesn't mean it'll be easy to find a partner. So, Only while having sex is an additional, limiting, limitation. And even if you can find a partner whose willing to participate in your ribald pleasantries in public, that doesn't mean that you won't draw a crowd or even get arrested for indecent exposure amidst other charges. And with the proliferation of social media, the participants will be all over the internet in a matter of minutes, probably going viral (hopefully not catching any viruses as well). Let's look at it as an affliction, just with takes extra time. Assuming you can have sex in one minute (your poor partner . . .), Affliction takes 1 second. So, that would be 5 levels of Takes Extra Time, to get it to 32 seconds. Or 6 for 64 seconds. That's -50% or -60%. That's already double the canon limitation of -25%. And, for men, it would be fitting to add "Takes Recharge" on there as well. I also, usually, suggest adding All-Out to it as well, as, if you're doing it right, you shouldn't be focused on anything else. Those are the primary reasons I consider "Only while having sex" not just valid, but worth more than the -25% limitation it has in canon. (I also consider Compulsive Sexual Behaviour a -15 disadvantage because of just how crippling it can be.) Now, your mileage may vary. It really depends on just how much sex you're comfortable having in your game. (That was an awkward sentence.) But, if you're willing to have sexual abilities in your game, you're probably more likely to think about the limitations and how they apply. |
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02-12-2019, 12:56 PM | #35 | |
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Also, using Affliction and having sex would be two things at once, so All-Out just to use the Affliction doesn't seem like a good idea. The original ability was written as an aura which so All-Out wouldn't apply to that version either. Aura also allowed it to affect he user over and over. Otherwise, repeat power use will eventually exhaust you even if the sex doesn't. |
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02-12-2019, 01:02 PM | #36 |
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I don't use Aura on it, because it's not an aura. I wouldn't have that. Melee attack, reach C, sure, but not Aura. It's not an aura.
Having sex and using an affliction aren't necessarily two separate things. That's why you have the Accessibility: Only while having sex. The sex is the concentration/ready maneuvers you need to activate the ability. If you're activating an affliction, it does deserve the Takes Extra Time limitations, as you can't do them quickly, if time should ever matter. And, as you're not able to make active defenses, All-Out does make sense. However, the discussion I was responding to was whether "Only while having sex" was a relevant limitation when coupled with Blood Agent, and it is. |
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02-12-2019, 05:42 PM | #38 | |
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The power, IIRC, was even more limited because they only worked after contact between those two particular PCs. |
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Aura isn't a bad idea if you're wanting to avoid having to actually take attack maneuvers specifically dedicated to activating the ability. Aura with Delayed Effect (Exposure Time) probably makes more sense for "I need to be doing this, but I don't need to be thinking about it", as compared to Takes Extra Time which explicitly requires a series of Ready maneuvers, so your ability to activate it would be interrupted if you were stunned and had to Do Nothing. Quote:
I remember reading something about switchable abilities automatically turning off when knocked unconscious but I can't remember if the modifier was an enhancement, limitation, or 0-point feature. One other way to fudge it would be to attack "Requires Will Roll" and simply opt not to make the will roll (automatically failing the ability) when needed. With Auras I don't know if you roll per contact or per minute though. Quote:
If so, then would a Succubus actually count as being "sexually intimate" during those Ready maneuvers? You can't "attack" during a ready maneuver after all (including Grapple, Shoving People Around, or whatever might be used to approximate the past time) so the Succubus would pretty much would need to just lie there and let the victim do most of the movement, or else if they are doing the work, they would have to hold off initiating their Leech until the post-coital snuggling. The Ready maneuver does give a "Step" (as well as Active Defenses, Retreats) so perhaps those could be used as bed-bouncing currencies? To design an Incubus/Succubus who was the active "attacker" who could still be using their ability would probably work best if you gave them Compartmentalized Mind and then added something like "Requires Will roll" to their Leech (to make it a mental ability instead of physical, to use Concentrates instead of Readies) so that they could be prepping the ability whilst engaging in attacks. That or use a custom "Extra Ready", since as far as I know "Extra Attack" isn't usable during a Ready maneuver, only during maneuvers with "Attack" in name. |
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During a ready maneuver, you can be casting a spell, moving around and doing various things, so, yeah. My adding of All-Out to the ability doesn't change any of that, you're just too focused on it to make defense rolls. You're really into what you're doing. |
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