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Old 05-25-2018, 07:28 PM   #11
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Per the Storm Giant writeup in the 2e Monstrous Manual, they can be up to 9th level clerics and 7th level wizards. Some of the other giants can have caster levels, Cloud and Fog I think. In the AD&D Monster Manual, Storm Giants get some spell-like abilities, but no class levels.
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Old 05-26-2018, 01:45 AM   #12
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Does anyone remember which groups (I think they were mainly goblin types) could have Witch Doctors? Kobol or gargoyle Witch Doctors sound like they'd still be fun encounters.
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Old 05-26-2018, 05:17 AM   #13
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Does anyone remember which groups (I think they were mainly goblin types) could have Witch Doctors? Kobol or gargoyle Witch Doctors sound like they'd still be fun encounters.
Having just roused out my old 1ED DMG I quote:

Tribal spell casters are found amongst the following races of creatures:
BUGBEARS, CAVEMEN, ETTINS, GIANTS, GNOLLS, GOBLINS, HOBGOBLINS,
KOBOLDS, LIZARD MEN, OGRES, ORCS, TROGLODYTES, and TROLLS.


These are then divided into 'shamans' and 'witch doctors' which are respectively a sawn off cleric and a sawn off cleric/magic user. Very restricted spell lists and most of the other abilities cut off.
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Old 05-26-2018, 06:04 AM   #14
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Having just roused out my old 1ED DMG I quote:

Tribal spell casters are found amongst the following races of creatures:
BUGBEARS, CAVEMEN, ETTINS, GIANTS, GNOLLS, GOBLINS, HOBGOBLINS,
KOBOLDS, LIZARD MEN, OGRES, ORCS, TROGLODYTES, and TROLLS.


These are then divided into 'shamans' and 'witch doctors' which are respectively a sawn off cleric and a sawn off cleric/magic user. Very restricted spell lists and most of the other abilities cut off.
Thank you.
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Old 05-27-2018, 01:51 AM   #15
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Per the Storm Giant writeup in the 2e Monstrous Manual, they can be up to 9th level clerics and 7th level wizards. Some of the other giants can have caster levels, Cloud and Fog I think. In the AD&D Monster Manual, Storm Giants get some spell-like abilities, but no class levels.



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Having just roused out my old 1ED DMG I quote:

Tribal spell casters are found amongst the following races of creatures:
BUGBEARS, CAVEMEN, ETTINS, GIANTS, GNOLLS, GOBLINS, HOBGOBLINS,
KOBOLDS, LIZARD MEN, OGRES, ORCS, TROGLODYTES, and TROLLS.


These are then divided into 'shamans' and 'witch doctors' which are respectively a sawn off cleric and a sawn off cleric/magic user. Very restricted spell lists and most of the other abilities cut off.

Thanks for this

Giant Shamans here we come.


Also Troll Shamans!
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:04 PM   #16
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Also Troll Shamans!

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As does the whole of Glorantha. Still, I thought there were minotaurs in WoW...
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Old 05-29-2018, 11:22 AM   #18
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As does the whole of Glorantha. Still, I thought there were minotaurs in WoW...
Tauren might as well be. Minotaurs reskinned with a PAINFUL Native American mashup culture.
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I love dem too, mon. ;)

But it's kind of common in myth for strange non-human intelligences to have some form of strange power and magic.
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As does the whole of Glorantha. Still, I thought there were minotaurs in WoW...
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Tauren might as well be. Minotaurs reskinned with a PAINFUL Native American mashup culture.
It's pretty dang bad. The trolls are also a horrible mashup of African and Caribbean. No idea bout Mysts of Pandaria but I'm not optismistic.

My first and main character was a tauren, which are very bestial, hunchbacked things. And I have a lot of tauren alts. But I also have a lot of other alts. And I had to play gnome for a long time because all the people I know IRL played Alliance :P

But I'm free and clean from WoW now, I did my rehab.
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