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Old 12-27-2017, 11:23 AM   #1
zedlopez
 
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Default Penalty for Parrying with ST less than the weapon's minimum?

The Minimum ST rules specify that using a weapon with a ST lower than their minimum incurs a penalty on weapon *skill*. The combat modifier lists in both Campaigns and Dungeon Fantasy mention the Minimum ST penalty for attacks but don't say anything about it applying to a Parry.

By extension of the rationale that the -4 off-hand penalty to skill results in a -2 to Parry, one could suppose that a -2 penalty due to low strength should make a -1 penalty to Parry.

So should there be a penalty for parrying with a weapon whose Minimum ST is above your ST? Should it be the full penalty that applies to skill, or half? (If the latter, I'd take it a minimum penalty of -1 would still apply.)
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: Penalty for Parrying with ST less than the weapon's minimum?

I think you should assume that anything that lowers your effective skill with a weapon or attack lowers your parry to the value appropriate to the effective skill. I don't think it needs to be spelled out; unless the rules explicitly state that this doesn't happen, I would assume that it does.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:01 AM   #3
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Default Re: Penalty for Parrying with ST less than the weapon's minimum?

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The Minimum ST rules specify that using a weapon with a ST lower than their minimum incurs a penalty on weapon *skill*. The combat modifier lists in both Campaigns and Dungeon Fantasy mention the Minimum ST penalty for attacks but don't say anything about it applying to a Parry.

By extension of the rationale that the -4 off-hand penalty to skill results in a -2 to Parry, one could suppose that a -2 penalty due to low strength should make a -1 penalty to Parry.

So should there be a penalty for parrying with a weapon whose Minimum ST is above your ST? Should it be the full penalty that applies to skill, or half? (If the latter, I'd take it a minimum penalty of -1 would still apply.)
Yep what whswhs said,

Personally I wouldn't make it a minimum -1 penalty as the "drop fractions" rule for calculating parry already works against the parry score in general.

But if you like it and have lots of people running around with ST scores 1 less than the MinST of their weapons go for it
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