Digital Mind Question

[whswhs]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Digital Possession has the requirement of complete access to the target computer. I'm unsure whether you also have to make the contested roll. Since the rules don't remove that requirement, it would seem to follow that you do? On the other hand, if you've got complete access to the machine you could suspend any Digital Minds in residence, leaving it with a Will of 0.

On the other hand, I can install software on my desktop or my tablet without needing to roll a Quick Contest of IQ vs. Will, or even an IQ roll with Complexity as a penalty. Is there an analog for a Digital Mind taking up residence in a digital environment?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by whswhs

On the other hand, I can install software on my desktop or my tablet without needing to roll a Quick Contest of IQ vs. Will, or even an IQ roll with Complexity as a penalty. Is there an analog for a Digital Mind taking up residence in a digital environment?

Presumably anything with Reprogrammable, where you have access to a root password or the equivalent, cannot resist.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by whswhs

On the other hand, I can install software on my desktop or my tablet without needing to roll a Quick Contest of IQ vs. Will, or even an IQ roll with Complexity as a penalty. Is there an analog for a Digital Mind taking up residence in a digital environment?

That is because you have administrative privileges on those machines. You would have a bit more difficultly installing software on any of my devices, and even more so remotely. Transhuman Space does this with Puppet.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by whswhs

On the other hand, I can install software on my desktop or my tablet without needing to roll a Quick Contest of IQ vs. Will, or even an IQ roll with Complexity as a penalty. Is there an analog for a Digital Mind taking up residence in a digital environment?

While it's true that such a roll doesn't seem to represent anything in the situation, your desktop and tablet have IQ 0, thus Will 0, and thus have basically no chance to win such a contest.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Presumably anything with Reprogrammable, where you have access to a root password or the equivalent, cannot resist.

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

That is because you have administrative privaleges on those machines. You would have a bit more difficultly installing software on any of my devices, and even more so remotely. Transhuman Space does this with Puppet.

If you don't have such privileges (legitimately or via prior computer intrusion) you can't use Possession (Digital) to begin with.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

If you don't have such privileges (legitimately or via prior computer intrusion) you can't use Possession (Digital) to begin with.

The contest of Computer Hacking versus Will or whatever presumably represents the intrusion...

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

If you don't have such privileges (legitimately or via prior computer intrusion) you can't use Possession (Digital) to begin with.

Ah, correct. However, if the body you're possessing doesn't have a currently running AI it will have Will 0 and be unable to resist (Complexity is not a penalty to the Possession roll).

[whswhs]

Now I'm remembering my supers campaign Sovereignty. One of the PCs was a telepath with Compartmentalized Mind, not always on. At one point, another, more powerful telepath was killed by his teammates. But she was able to insert herself into one of his compartments, keep it running, and hide there. . . .

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

The contest of Computer Hacking versus Will or whatever presumably represents the intrusion...

Whatever rules you use for gaining the required computer access (there's a number of different rulesets for such things), doing so is separate from and prerequisite to using Possession.