08-22-2019, 09:45 AM | #61 | |
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Re: Why does Bastard Sword have a U in parry in 1 hand?
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Zweyhander is the way the author spelled Zweihänder which is a German longsword. More over the German School of Fencing does appear in the book (pg 270) and begins with "The German school of fencing for many years favored the two handed sword the schwerdt. This weapon was taught as a favored sword from 1480 until 1570 by the reigning fencing association of the time the Marxbruder" and seems to be what many people mistakenly call "German longsword" fighting. In fact, Castle (the reference used for the Long Sword entry) states "The word Schwerdt in Germany was restricted to the heavier kind of sword, such as was called Long Sword or the old-fashioned sword, m England In reality, this fighting style wasn't limited to just the longsword (as implied by the misname) but included polearms, daggers, messers (with or without a buckler), and the staff as well. I should point out that what people calls a "great sword" overlaps with the high end of the longsword category but the really large ones used skills more akin to polearm and staff then two-handed sword for the very simple reason the thing was too big to be used as a sword. Last edited by maximara; 08-22-2019 at 10:11 AM. |
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08-22-2019, 09:03 PM | #62 | |
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Re: Why does Bastard Sword have a U in parry in 1 hand?
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Of course, there is a huge difference between "months of playtest by a few dozen people, only some of which may be focused on melee weapon changes" and "a dozen years of actual play by thousands of people coupled with intense development in combat and low-tech focused source books." Naturally, the latter process will refine rules to a far greater degree than the former. It's also worth noting that 4e introduced a great number of changes across all areas of the game (e.g., in defense, the dropping of PD). Some rules had received years of prior testing in the authors' campaigns; others were developed during the design and consultation process. It's more or less impossible to talk about one 4e rule being playtested or not playtested. People tested the system as a complete package.
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08-24-2019, 04:10 PM | #64 | |
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Historically, the difference seems to be that one crowd said "bastard sword" and another said "long sword," I don't see both terms in many sources (and "bastard sword" is rare in English in general). Its much like staff weapons: Gary Gygax picked names from all over Europe across 300 years and gave them a precise definition, in any one town in any one year there were a few common names which each covered weapons with different forms but similar function.
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