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Old 06-12-2018, 10:20 PM   #1
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Default The chance to hit a NINJA...

is -1 on the D6 roll.

Is having it a -1 CRT Column shift to the left the same thing, assuming attacks at 5to1 or greater are still automatic Xs?

I think it is, except at 1to1 odds, on a roll of 4 and using -1 to the D6 roll is a D while a column shift to the left -1 is a NE...which in the case of attacking an OGRE is the same end result, is that correct? Am I missing anything?
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:35 PM   #2
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Against a unit that ignores D results it's effectively the same thing, with the exception for 5-1 [the entire column is Xs]. On the CRT, the number of Xs always changes by 1 going from column to column.

Though it brings up a question...at 3-1 and higher, what is a result of 0? The Battle Box rules don't explicitly say, but I'd imagine the smart move is probably that a roll can't go below 1 or above 6.

Against troops that Ds do affect, it doesn't hold up. NEs double or halve with each step [4-2-1-0-0-0], Xs add or subtract one with each step [1-2-3-4-5-6], then Ds fill in whatever's left...sometimes it's 1 D, sometimes it's 2.

Ogre Minis' rules for Hulks might have an effect on that, because the lowest X leaves a hulk...but the stepped progression should make it a non-issue. Don't quote me on that bit.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:59 PM   #3
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...I'd imagine the smart move is probably that a roll can't go below 1 or above 6.
Correct.

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Ogre Minis' rules for Husks might have an effect on that, because the lowest X leaves a husk...but the stepped progression should make it a non-issue. Don't quote me on that bit.
Hulks, not husks.
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Old 06-13-2018, 02:38 PM   #4
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Hulks, not husks.
Correction made. That's what I get for posting on lunch instead of waiting until I got home.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:01 PM   #5
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Husks are what is left behind when Ogrethulhu sucks out your SOUL . . . !

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Old 06-13-2018, 06:44 PM   #6
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Thanks for the confirmation guys.
Would it be superfluous nonsense to have this mentioned in the official rules, that players can use the -1 to the D6 or a -1 left column shift on the CRT and 5to1 odds are still considered automatic Xs?

I think some people (I'm one of them) may prefer the left column shift method, and if it yields the same relative results, it may be worth adding at some point.

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Husks are what is left behind when Ogrethulhu sucks out your SOUL . . . !

D.
This has to be included in the Ogrethulhu rules somehow! XD
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:32 PM   #7
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Is having it a -1 CRT Column shift to the left the same thing [as a -1 on the D6 roll], assuming attacks at 5to1 or greater are still automatic Xs?
Yes. And in play they are effectively the same as doubling defense strength.

That unaltered 1:1 column remains the statistical sweet spot.

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