02-09-2018, 02:57 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Land of the Beer, Home of the Dirndls
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Warping back and forth
So I want to warp between two points: One fixed, one flexible. This means that I can jump to my "home" location and then back again.
I thought about using the Anchored limitation, but this poses the additional trouble that it only works for a rather limited set of modifiers, for a reason I can't quite discern (e.g. I might want to add a Tunnel to this). Right now I'm thinking about ignoring said restriction and either halving the final value, or having two Warps (Anchored: one spot/Anchored: last departue point) as Alternate Abilities. I think the Lord of Your Own Domain has a similar setup for Jumper, but built in to the advantage itself... |
02-09-2018, 04:29 AM | #2 |
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Re: Warping back and forth
Most of the special modifiers don't make sense to me with Anchored, but Tunnel might be an exception. No conflict springs to mind for me (though maybe it's just too early).
Keep in mind that Anchored does not allow you to teleport anywhere _from_ your one site. It restricts the teleport always to go to the anchor, never anywhere else. It's a one-way trip home, not a teleport hub. You might build an outgoing power with Special Portal (your home site), and AA that with the return ability with Anchored (both -80%). |
02-09-2018, 08:46 AM | #3 | |
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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I'd definitely agree that Tunnel should be compatible with Anchored, by the way. |
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02-09-2018, 09:52 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Land of the Beer, Home of the Dirndls
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Re: Warping back and forth
I'd rate an ability where you just have to go via your homebase as more of a nuisance factor, -10% at most.
Not that this is what I wanted, just a way to get from point X to point H(omebase) and then back from H to X (not from H to anywhere, nor from anywhere to X). And by the way, while H would qualify for the -80% Anchored version, X wouldn't. |
02-09-2018, 10:14 AM | #5 | ||
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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If it's the first, that's a very specific Special Portal situation, I'd say. I'd call that even more limiting than the -80% given in powers. I'd price it at -100%, though the usual rules about total modifiers not exceeding -80% would still apply, so you could just stack on +20% in enhancements if you were taking that. If it's the second, that's definitely a bit trickier. I think Either/Or limitations is still the way to go, with Anchored as one of them, but the other would be an Accessibility limitation instead, "only to the last place I warped to". That's tricky to price, but I'd eyeball it as -80%. Arguably, it could be -100%, but I'm estimating conservatively (particularly since -100% doesn't work well in Either/Or constructions). Plugging those values into the Either/Or construct with Anchored gets you a limitation value of -64%, which I'd round to -65%. |
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02-09-2018, 10:27 AM | #6 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: Warping back and forth
Just eyeballing the thing, I'd call it about a -50% limitation on Warp. It looks to me to be about as useful as that specific version (the -50% one) of Anchored.
I don't understand why Anchored is incompatible with Tunnel, but the list in Powers is definite. No problem with ignoring that restriction, but I wouldn't mind hearing about the reasoning for it from Kromm. Didn't we discuss a Limited Destinations mod for Warp at some point? I thought I remembered such, but I can't find it *fuzz* |
02-09-2018, 10:48 AM | #7 | |
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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Actually, disregard this - I just noticed that in Powers, Anchored to one place, but you can change what the place is by spending a minute there, is worth -50%. So that's what I'd use for the value of the "can only warp to the place you've most recently been", and the Either/Or limitation would become Either Anchored, my home base, -80%, or Anchored, place I've been before, -50%, for a final value of -40%. In this case, I think it's reasonable to replace the "must be there for a minute to change locations" restriction to "must successfully Warp to home base from there", since Warp isn't guaranteed. |
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02-09-2018, 11:35 AM | #8 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: 100 hurricane swamp
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Interesting, I have nothing to add, but I'm taking notes. |
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02-09-2018, 11:52 AM | #9 |
Join Date: Sep 2007
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