[Errata] G3 and M14

[nik1979]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

....and the answer is anticipated gun control legislation from the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress (whether that expectation is reasonable or not). This has raised demand tremendously.

So its price inflation because of demand, not manufacturing costs going up.
Then by what standard to prices in the Book should reflect? If these inflation prices should not be counted, and applied only depending on the CR of the area the other GUN prices should reflect this as well.

This basically brings down the prices of all the other guns, since if the m14's price of $600 is based in the US then the FN FAL, G3 etc... should be based in their manufacturers locality. Unlike other goods, transporting GUNs across international waters raises the price by ALOT. Because of special legal and control reasons it triples to quintuples the import price.

This gives the possibility of further slashing Gun prices all around. Anyway prices should reflect ONLY manufacturing costs not special Legal Costs which is covered by the CR and LC rules.

anecdotal example, here in the philippines when it is not election season very old 2nd Hand M16 (with US1982 stamped in the receiver) sell for $500 (assuming 2 middle men). During election the price flies to around $2000 because of the gun ban. These factors are easier to calculate when structuring costs are used instead of inflated costs that come after CR and LC.

[gjc8]

Originally Posted by nik1979

So its price inflation because of demand, not manufacturing costs going up.
Then by what standard to prices in the Book should reflect? If these inflation prices should not be counted, and applied only depending on the CR of the area the other GUN prices should reflect this as well.

It's not that temporarily inflated prices "don't count"; a character has to pay what they have to pay.

But GURPS is foremost a game, not a product catalog. The price now is 3 times the price 5 years ago, and 5 years from now it might be back to one third of the current price. The prices in the books are, necessarily, only approximations of market action.

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by nik1979

anecdotal example, here in the philippines when it is not election season very old 2nd Hand M16 (with US1982 stamped in the receiver) sell for $500 (assuming 2 middle men). During election the price flies to around $2000 because of the gun ban. These factors are easier to calculate when structuring costs are used instead of inflated costs that come after CR and LC.

That's a setting issue, not a generic issue.
In any given setting at any given time a GM can determine that x factors make a product more expensive or less expensive due to anything from laws and politics to fashion and taste, the prices are therefore generic, not setting specific.

Basically things cost what they cost, none of the prices as listed should be used in any specific setting, but if anyone doesn't care about setting prices they can just pull a price out of the books.
Prices are there for generic ease of use, not for individual setting purposes.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by nik1979

Then by what standard to prices in the Book should reflect?

Prices in the books are Gurps $ and not any real world currency, not even the US $ from 2004 though there might be a rough equivalency at that point.

Real world prices are always subject to a conversion factor from the Gurps $ and this can vary widely due to any number of factors.

Of course, keep in mind that PC Wealth is in Gurps $ too and subject to conversion factors as well.

Using Gurps $ for both Wealth and prices is a gameable abstraction. No book (not even one with Hans' exacting research backing it) could cover all possible real world variations in monetary matters. The GM who wants to deal with that sort of thing is going to have to use his own knowledge and research for the specific situation where he wants to use it.