RPM: Dresden Files

[The Benj]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

the took Storm Front make the typical movie adaption changes to the story then with the writers blessing let it go off in it own continuity, such as Beanka and Harry having an actual working simualr to one one he has with john Markone and the White Council being run by dragons. and Justin being Harry's Uncle [mother's brother]

And it was the High Council in the show (I assume they were worried about White Council sounding racist?).

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I always thought of it as more a bubble. But yeah, those could be added, the cost won't change.

Um, shouldn't reducing the cost of the DR with those limitations reduce the cost?

After all, if it didn't make any difference in his cost/effort he'd make himself impervious for the same hassle.

[Nosforontu]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Um, shouldn't reducing the cost of the DR with those limitations reduce the cost?

After all, if it didn't make any difference in his cost/effort he'd make himself impervious for the same hassle.

The enhancement rules for damage spells in RPM indicate that limitations can be added to the spell to reduce the energy cost of any enhancements that the spell has but cannot reduce the price beyond cancelling out the Enhancements stacked on the spell.

Presumably this rule can be floated to other aspects of the RPM systems as well.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Um, shouldn't reducing the cost of the DR with those limitations reduce the cost?

After all, if it didn't make any difference in his cost/effort he'd make himself impervious for the same hassle.

Alright. Take two:

His shield bracelet is a Bound spell. I'd use the same stats for a Amulet for the bracelet so it might look like this:

Early Version:

Defense Bonus Meta-Trait 2 (Accessibility, Only while DR is active, -10%; Bracelet, -45%; Magical, -10%) [21] + DR 31 (Bracelet, -45%; Costs 1 FP, -5%; Directional, Front, -20%; Force Field, +20%; Hardened 2, +40%; Limited, Ranged Physical, -40%; Magical, -10%; Requires Active Defense roll, -40%' Semi-Ablative, -20%) [31]. 52 points.


Latter Version:

Defense Bonus Meta-Trait 3 (Accessibility, Only while DR is active, -10%; Bracelet, -45%; Magical, -10%) [32] + DR 53 (Bracelet, -45%; Costs 2 FP, -10%; Directional, Front, -20%; Force Field, +20%; Hardened 2, +40%; Magical, -10%; Requires Active Defense roll, -40%; Semi-Ablative, -20%) [53]. 85 points.

Originally Posted by Nosforontu

The enhancement rules for damage spells in RPM indicate that limitations can be added to the spell to reduce the energy cost of any enhancements that the spell has but cannot reduce the price beyond cancelling out the Enhancements stacked on the spell.

Presumably this rule can be floated to other aspects of the RPM systems as well.

I wouldn't. Maybe a few of them (Persistent and Mobile for spells with the Area of Effect modifier). But I experimented with this. It breaks things.

[JP42]

Okay, I usually feel like I can carry my own in these conversations, but can I get a reference for "Defense Meta-Trait"?

[Langy]

Originally Posted by JP42

Okay, I usually feel like I can carry my own in these conversations, but can I get a reference for "Defense Meta-Trait"?

I'm not sure where it was originally made - may be Supers.

In any case, it's just Enhanced Dodge + Enhanced Parry + Enhanced Block.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by JP42

Okay, I usually feel like I can carry my own in these conversations, but can I get a reference for "Defense Meta-Trait"?

Supers (p. 34) - and should be "Defense Bonus Meta-Trait" - I left out a word, apologies.

[JP42]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Supers (p. 34) - and should be "Defense Bonus Meta-Trait" - I left out a word, apologies.

Pas problem, Ghost. I wasn't looking in Supers, I was grepping my way through Basic and Powers, so I'd never have found it.

[Nosforontu]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I wouldn't. Maybe a few of them (Persistent and Mobile for spells with the Area of Effect modifier). But I experimented with this. It breaks things.

Thanks for the heads up it is something that I will definately have to keep an eye out for in play then.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by JP42

Pas problem, Ghost. I wasn't looking in Supers, I was grepping my way through Basic and Powers, so I'd never have found it.

:-)

Originally Posted by Nosforontu

Thanks for the heads up it is something that I will definately have to keep an eye out for in play then.

I hope I don't come off as a know-it-all - that is not my intent. I have bent and played with this system so much that most of the things people ask, I already know because I've tried it. For instance, I have 22 different enchantment methods that I've used and discarded for my own games. And I can't tell you how many ways I've played with the spells.

But trust me when I say, adding enhancements willy-nilly on anything other than a Damaging spell creates rituals that are either too wimpy for the cost or too powerful.