06-01-2020, 08:22 PM | #11 |
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Re: A Matter of some Gravity
There are some weight-based effects of Encumbrance. Perhaps those connected to FP loss for long distance ground movement but inertial effects will be major and invariant. Especially regarding Dodge.
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06-02-2020, 06:23 AM | #12 |
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Re: A Matter of some Gravity
As a general rule. I'd assess encumbrance effects based on mass if I needed to know how fast someone could move by 'jumping' off a surface.
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06-02-2020, 11:49 AM | #13 |
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Re: A Matter of some Gravity
I wouldn't approach this topic by saying "we're in microgravity" and asking what G-value to use. I would determine the G-value for the celestial body, or the acceleration for the spacecraft, and then check if it fell below 0.1 G.
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06-02-2020, 12:11 PM | #14 | |
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06-02-2020, 01:25 PM | #15 | |
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If your native gravity is 1 G, your ST is 10, your BL is 20 lbs., and you're carrying 40 lbs., then at 0.9 G your encumbrance falls to 36 lbs., which still counts as Light encumbrance, -1 to Move. But at 0.15 G, your encumbrance falls to 6 lbs., or No Encumbrance, and you have full Move. (Or, conversely, your upper limit for Light Encumbrance goes to 44 lbs. in the first case, and to 266 lbs. in the second.) Assuming Basic Move 5, your high jump is 20 inches and your broad jump is 7 feet. A running start, with Light encumbrance, gets you to 44 inches, limited to 40 inches, and 15 feet, limited to 14 feet. At 0.9 G, these go to 20/0.9 = 22.2 inches, rounded to 20 inches; 20/0.9 + 24 = 46 inches, limited to 44 inches; 7 /0.9 = 7.8 feet, rounded to 8 feet; and 15/0.9 = 16.7 feet, limited to 16 feet. But at 0.15 G, those become 133 inches, 266 inches, 46 feet, and 92 feet! There are similar effects on throwing and falling. At 0.15 G, a fall of 20 feet does no more damage than a fall of 3 feet at 1 G. At 0.9 G, you're less than 0.2 G low; there's no DX penalty. At 0.15 G, you're 0.85 G low; that's -4 to (many) DX-based rolls. There's no effect on IQ or HT. That doesn't look like "no difference."
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06-02-2020, 02:13 PM | #16 | |
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Re: A Matter of some Gravity
After a lot of reading, I believe the issue of determining Encumbrance, and thus calculating Move and Dodge in space, can only be solved by not using the rules from Basic Set, and instead mixing the following from Pyr #3-85:
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06-02-2020, 03:41 PM | #18 | |
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High jump is respectively 182 in. and 222 in., doubled with a running start. Broad jump is respectively 64 ft. and 78 ft., doubled with a running start. A fall of 20 ft. is comparable to 2 ft. under 1 G. In either case, you have -4 to DX rolls. However, at 0.09 G, you're subject to space adaptation syndrome. When you enter microgravity, you roll vs. the higher of HT or Free Fall (at -4 if you have Space Sickness). If you fail, you are Nauseated, and at risk of vomiting. You get another HT/Free Fall every 8 hours to recover—but not if you have Space Sickness. None of these problems arise at 0.11 G. That's a BIG difference. I hope this is helpful.
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06-02-2020, 08:38 PM | #20 |
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Re: A Matter of some Gravity
Yes. From my review of the rules that seems to be the case.
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