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Old 06-24-2010, 12:12 AM   #1
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First of all, forgive my approximative description of the monster.
I have the French version of the game, and it is called "la main balladeuse", which could mean "crawling hand".
The card says that if you give it 500 gold pieces, it becomes your small companion and adds a hand toi your character.

My question is : if I "buy" the "crawling hand", do I still get the 1 Treasure he was guarding or not ?
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:39 AM   #2
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No, you don't. That is the choice you have - kill it and get a level and a treasure, or give it something and gain a hand.
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:43 AM   #3
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No, you don't. That is the choice you have - kill it and get a level and a treasure, or give it something and gain a hand.
I was sure about the level not gained (one must kill the beast), but not about the treasure.
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:07 AM   #4
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I have re-read the card.
No mention of not being allowed to get the treasury is on it.
Under the "If You Win" rule, the first paragraph (p. 9) says :
"If you win, you have defeated the monster. This usually means you
killed it messily, though some monsters have special “don’t kill me” rules."
Would that latter precision indicate that you benefit from the same consequences as after killing a monster in special cases where the monster doesn't need to be killed ?

Now, I reckon that one cannot go one level if one doesn't kill...
But isn't "taming" the "crawling hand" a way to defeat the Monster (through corruption) - thus allowing one to still get his treasure?

I beg your pardon for pushing further the question : not trying to annoy anyone. Just trying to catch the rationale of the rules - and, of course, I am fully ready to accept that one cannot get that treasure, when I figure out the logics that lead to such a conclusion...
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Old 07-01-2010, 11:14 PM   #5
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You only get to draw a treasure if you won the battle. You didn't win here, you made the monster disappear (by bribing it). Therefore, no reward for you.
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Old 07-10-2010, 08:41 AM   #6
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I have re-read the card.
No mention of not being allowed to get the treasury is on it.
Under the "If You Win" rule, the first paragraph (p. 9) says :
"If you win, you have defeated the monster. This usually means you
killed it messily, though some monsters have special “don’t kill me” rules."
Would that latter precision indicate that you benefit from the same consequences as after killing a monster in special cases where the monster doesn't need to be killed ?

Now, I reckon that one cannot go one level if one doesn't kill...
But isn't "taming" the "crawling hand" a way to defeat the Monster (through corruption) - thus allowing one to still get his treasure?

I beg your pardon for pushing further the question : not trying to annoy anyone. Just trying to catch the rationale of the rules - and, of course, I am fully ready to accept that one cannot get that treasure, when I figure out the logics that lead to such a conclusion...
I can't think of anything in the rules that will explain this. however I agree that unless you kill the monster you do not get a treasure unless it says you do. While I hate to bring munchkin into this there is similar monsters. In munchkin it is very clear you only get the treasure (and level) if you kill it. If taking the other option then no treasure. You are getting a bonus by being able to use a extra hand which is like getting a treasure card like the cheat card.
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Old 07-10-2010, 08:11 PM   #7
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While I hate to bring munchkin into this there is similar monsters.
Trying to apply Munchkin rules in Munchkin Quest is a very good way to fall into error -- they are related but distinct games. I would strongly caution people against assuming that anything from one is carried over into the other unless explicitly stated.

To the initial question: you don't get the Treasure. Instead, you get a new Hand.
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Old 07-11-2010, 01:19 AM   #8
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Thank you, Andrew, for the clear and official answer.

And thanks to the other players, as you gave an unanimous answer to my question.
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