10-28-2018, 01:40 PM | #81 | |
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...Except the Helots, of course. Most Greeks accepted that Helots deserved to be slaves. However, that probably came out of a sheer pragmatic desire to avoid starting a war with the bad-ass designated winners in Sparta.
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10-29-2018, 10:10 AM | #82 |
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Re: Killing Slavers
I don't necessarily appreciate how mature my characters are about this topic. We've played games about being involved in the slaver industry and we've played games where characters were analogues of 1860's freed slaves. My players generally have characters who's outlook reflects the game world or when they contrast it it is played as an unpopular obsession. They understand that even if their characters find the facts of slavery hard to swallow there are consequences to upsetting the apple-cart of slave labor in an economy
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10-29-2018, 11:22 AM | #83 | |
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01-15-2019, 06:54 PM | #84 | ||
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In the 150s BCE, Marcus Porcius Cato (the Elder) freed Salonia, his young slave, in order to marry her. Cato had not merely been a Praetor, he had been Consul. And because of Cato the Elder's second marriage, to his former slave Salonia, his grandson and namesake, Caesar's famous foe, Marcus Porcius Cato Salonius, probably better known as Cato the Younger, was able to be born. The grandson of a former slave and in his lifetime, also became Praetor. Not merely historically possible, but actually happened.
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01-15-2019, 07:27 PM | #85 | |
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Enslaving people like me is an insult to every person like me. Why do you think Rome reacted that way about Lady Lucretia? She was treated as a slave by a foreigner and just to start with that implied that all Romans were slaves.
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01-16-2019, 12:50 PM | #86 |
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Re: Killing Slavers
In one of our most popular settings there's a major guild that engages in slave trade. The horribleness of that ranges from involuntary career placement for professionals that are needed somewhere else to manacles and cages sold-on-a-pedestal slave trade. The problem is that this is a cultural practice in the game world and this guild is multi-faceted. They're the same guild that builds large buildings or rents mercenary soldiers, or knows how to mine resources or delivers the mail on some worlds. "Chainers" are despised even within the guild but they're a necessary evil in a feudal universe with high populations and very little technology.
I've had players who've fought against chainers, I've had players who've reluctantly sold people to chainers, I've had players who solved problems by selling people to chainers, I ran a pretty successful solo campaign where the player played a chainer. I think the reaction people have to slavery depends a lot on the context and who the slave is. If slavers are taking a highly skilled doctor to a remote island where disease is wiping out the population, maybe they're not so evil. If they're taking you to work in a casino ship as a circus whore.. yeah you're going to shiv them. |
01-16-2019, 03:51 PM | #87 | |
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Oddly enough, even Caucasian children, poor & with a heavy tan, were adjudged Black and declared slaves. Apparently this traffic (total) exceeded the numbers of Black slaves who escaped North. |
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01-16-2019, 03:53 PM | #88 | |
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01-16-2019, 10:39 PM | #89 |
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Well, under that 'one drop' 'logic', they were obviously Black...
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01-17-2019, 11:40 AM | #90 |
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Re: Killing Slavers
Has anyone perhaps figured out how to filter black blood and white blood? And what is the precise quantity of a "drop"?
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