03-08-2017, 11:32 PM | #21 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
Webley were making pepperbox and cap-and-ball revolvers before 1850. The cap-and-ball guns were double-action (or "self-cocking" in the terminology of the time). There isn't any detail on these in Howell's The Webley Story, but adapting numbers from Adventure Guns should work.
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03-09-2017, 10:40 AM | #22 | |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
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03-09-2017, 12:22 PM | #23 | |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
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There was also the issue that the double actions of that early time tended to have poor triggers. with pulls that were 50% higher than is accepted today and poor technical qualities such as excessive length and lack of smoothness.
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03-10-2017, 06:15 AM | #24 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
Double actions seem to have found more favour in Europe than the US, though they really took off a little after 1850, with the Adams revolver.
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03-10-2017, 01:17 PM | #25 | |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
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Its kind of moot in London in 1850 though ... most shooters will have weapons with one shot per barrel. Matt Easton says that even many British army officers could not afford a revolver, or found that the early Colts did not meet their needs.
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03-10-2017, 06:14 PM | #26 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
How an 1851 revolver operates: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcBsVaH_gew
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03-10-2017, 10:27 PM | #27 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
1825 saw the development of the percussion cap, and mass production with precision tooling began in 1830 (Colt's Dragoon Revolver). 1840 saw the development of pin fired cartridges; 1850 saw the development of shotguns; 1859 saw the development of full rim-fire cartridges; 1860 saw the development of repeating mechanisms with magazines(notably the Spencer repeating carbine); 1869 saw the invention of center fire cartridges.
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03-12-2017, 02:32 PM | #28 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
Pin fire and needle guns would be cutting edge though more continental than British at this time. Brits like muzzle loading for some reason
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03-13-2017, 01:30 AM | #29 |
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Re: Early Victorian guns?
Possibly because a multi-barrelled pistol was more reliable than a needle gun (and IIRC that was used for rifles, not pistols), and more powerful than pinfires were.
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