[GURPS Powers: Divine Favor] Druid Abilities

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

Is there a creative commons thing where you don't require attribution and allow commercial use? That one is too restrictive for me. I'm not comfortable with that.

SJGames' online policy disallows commercial use of their copyrights and trademarks (I liked it above). As for attribution, you can obviously request to be given attribution in any form that you feel convenient. You retain your copyrights over your work (and can do whatever you want with it, including relicense it under any license of your choice), it's what others can do with it that is restricted to non-commercial use that requires attribution. Of course, since this will combine the work of multiple posters, the combined work won't be available under a different license unless all contributors agree. I can set up a version control system to check what belongs to each contributor, but I feel it's more hassle than it's worth.

Oh, and by posting it on the forums, you've already given SJG commercial rights to reuse it, it's in the forum's T&C.

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[ErhnamDJ]

One thing I've wondered about is how resisted abilities should work in Divine Favor. Since these are gods afflicting people, there shouldn't be any way to resist. But that's not practical in the game system. What's the best way to handle that? Make them normal Afflictions? Afflictions with a large penalty to resist? Just don't have those sorts of abilities?

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

One thing I've wondered about is how resisted abilities should work in Divine Favor. Since these are gods afflicting people, there shouldn't be any way to resist.

This-does-not-follow, at least not automatically and universally.

Don't forget that these are not "gods afflicting people"; these are "holy people afflicting people". Yes, they're wielding The Power Of The Gods to do so, but I'm wielding The Power Of Physics when I hit someone with a rock; there's still a huge gulf between me hitting someone with a rock and a comet hitting them :) Same stuff going on, vastly different scale.

TL;DR: These aren't abilities for gods! Gods tend to start with WAY more points, and don't ninny around with petty Alternate Abilities :D

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

But that's not practical in the game system. What's the best way to handle that? Make them normal Afflictions? Afflictions with a large penalty to resist? Just don't have those sorts of abilities?

Well, for starters, actual Unstoppable-Force-Gods don't have to really use the character creation rules or task resolution rules any more than any other form of GM fiat does. They just Bzzt and then you're a spider, wondering where you went wrong in life.

Short of that, though, Affliction 20 or 30 or 100 is a pretty good starting point. It's not like Athena needs a budget.

IIRC Horror gives good advice about this sort of issue when discussing the abilities of Elder Things what make you wibble - it's easily extended to other traits.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

One thing I've wondered about is how resisted abilities should work in Divine Favor. Since these are gods afflicting people, there shouldn't be any way to resist. But that's not practical in the game system. What's the best way to handle that? Make them normal Afflictions? Afflictions with a large penalty to resist? Just don't have those sorts of abilities?

Well, the mechanical underpinnings are basic power-building, so resistance works as usual for whatever power you built. If you think it appropriate you could load resistible abilities out to be really hard to resist with some mix of Reliable, extra affliction levels, Cosmic: No Rule of 16, or Cosmic: Irresistible Attack. I probably wouldn't because I don't really want irresistible godly power.

[ErhnamDJ]

Originally Posted by Bruno

This-does-not-follow, at least not automatically and universally.

Don't forget that these are not "gods afflicting people"; these are "holy people afflicting people".

That's not how I look at these abilities. If my character convinces Zeus to transform someone into a swan, then that person is a swan. It doesn't make conceptual sense to me for Zeus to fail to turn someone into a swan.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

That's not how I look at these abilities. If my character convinces Zeus to transform someone into a swan, then that person is a swan. It doesn't make conceptual sense to me for Zeus to fail to turn someone into a swan.

Doesn't make conceptual sense for Zeus to fail? If you'd picked an omnipotent monotheistic type I'd see what you're saying, but a Greek god, even the big guy, doesn't always succeed.

Being balked by mere human vitality/willpower, that might be uncharacteristic, but failing hardly seems out of character for him.

[PK]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

One thing I've wondered about is how resisted abilities should work in Divine Favor.

A quick look at the various resisted abilities in Divine Favor should answer that. They're simply resisted by whatever the appropriate attribute is. In some cases, they may throw on Reliable 10 to make it a forgone conclusion.

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by ErhnamDJ

One thing I've wondered about is how resisted abilities should work in Divine Favor. Since these are gods afflicting people, there shouldn't be any way to resist. But that's not practical in the game system. What's the best way to handle that? Make them normal Afflictions? Afflictions with a large penalty to resist? Just don't have those sorts of abilities?

You're supposed to use the Cosmic Enhancement for that.

Generally, fantasy discerns between hyperpowerful monotheistic gods and polytheistic gods that are merely extremely powerful. GURPS intends for the former to have Cosmic, and not the later, although if you want to get more elaborate, GURPS Powers has optional rules for "tiered Cosmic".

Also, it's not obvious that the version of "druid" intended by the OP isn't some kind of pseudo-monotheistic "Nature as a Concept". In which case Cosmic may well be simulatively correct to use.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Peter Knutsen

You're supposed to use the Cosmic Enhancement for that.

Generally, fantasy discerns between hyperpowerful monotheistic gods and polytheistic gods that are merely extremely powerful. GURPS intends for the former to have Cosmic, and not the later, although if you want to get more elaborate, GURPS Powers has optional rules for "tiered Cosmic".

Also, it's not obvious that the version of "druid" intended by the OP isn't some kind of pseudo-monotheistic "Nature as a Concept". In which case Cosmic may well be simulatively correct to use.

There's not actually a Cosmic that makes resistance rolls fail automatically. That's specifically something cosmic can't do.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

There's not actually a Cosmic that makes resistance rolls fail automatically. That's specifically something cosmic can't do.

It's cosmic +infinity% (^_-) (or +∞% for the non-unicode challenged)