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I really like these ideas, and I feel like it's all coming together for me. I like this Devotional Enchantment pool, but I need some prayer mixed in too. I feel like that's a big part of what Divine Favor is, and I'd like to keep that in the mix. What would you do about that? The same thing that Ghostdancer suggested? I just feel like his numbers are... Stagnant. Maybe prayer, if you went the route of Devotion talent increasing your reserve, would have your god give you a certain percent back. Neutral would be 10%, Good would be 25%, Very Good would be 50%, and Excellent would be 100%. This energy would not stick around. It can only be used for the ritual being cast. Example: Stewart the Cleric of Silliness wants to cast a Create Fart ritual. He's already expended his entire reserve of 100 energy (from Devotion 4) so he prays to his God of Jokes. He receives a Good reaction so his god grants him 25 energy for his Create Fart ritual; enough to create the stinkiest of farts. |
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06-02-2013, 02:24 PM | #33 | |
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Also, correction. 100 energy would be Devotion 3. You don't need Devotion to get the base energy (25, in that case). |
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The other thing to note, though, is that the "Meditation, Holiness, and Study" rules include a section where "important meritorious acts" are good for 25 energy points, with no time interval associated with them. Note that this is equivalent to doing something in play that the GM deems worthy of a character point reward: in a real pinch, if the GM agrees that the theurgic ritual itself counts as an "important meritorious act" (which I as the GM would rule as going above and beyond the call of duty), I'd use this option to grant him 25 points of Grace on the spot, effectively allowing the spell to fuel itself. With all this in mind, I wouldn't double the energy generated by Meditation, Holiness, and Study; especially with the fallback to Divine Favor's Prayers, you don't need more than that. In fact, I'd go one step further and say that the RPM-style theurgy is every bit as susceptible to divine displeasure as everything else is: if you're on the outs with your god, the theurgy stops working until you've performed appropriate penance. |
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06-02-2013, 03:27 PM | #36 | |
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If you do allow Ritual Adept, it shouldn't get the "Alternate Ability" discount. Likewise, if you decide that you want a separate ER for RPM in addition to the energy gained through Meditation, Holiness, and Study (and I wouldn't recommend this), I'd suggest charging for it by making the character take levels of Power Investiture (with no Alternate Ability reduction in cost) that acts like RPM's Magery for the purpose of theurgic energy. But as I said, I don't recommend this. Neither of these should get the Alternate Ability reduction because neither is an Ability: they're not something that you do. |
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06-02-2013, 04:10 PM | #38 |
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This thread. It has so many awesome ideas in it. I know this will see use. Keep up the great work!
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06-02-2013, 04:21 PM | #39 |
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I know! I think this is the best thread that I have ever started! Of course, I definitely cannot take all of the credit. There are several other brilliant thinkers in here as well! :)
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06-02-2013, 08:24 PM | #40 |
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Sorry for the confusion. I was posting as "customizing RPM," not "combining RPM and DivF"...
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