11-05-2016, 05:48 PM | #1 | ||
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Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
In GURPS: High Tech we are greeted with this little note:
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BUT... there's only a handful of these magnificent creatures in the book! Examples include: Heckler and Koch Volkspistole Modell 70 (Machine pistol) Aircraft Armament Inc. XM19 Serial Flechette Rifle (Experimental Rifle) Heckler and Koch (Experimental Rifle) The last one is the best example for my hypothesis, since it's an experimental, bullpup, caseless rifle. It's quite similar to the TL9 conventional gun designs of GURPS, and it was designed no less than 20 years ago! So I wonder: Perhaps not in TL8, but by TL9, should more guns be HCCB-capable? What do you think? |
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11-05-2016, 06:13 PM | #2 |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
HCCB is a fairly new technology, overall, which is why you see it only in a few of the newer TL8 weapons.
I've made notes on several of my custom TL11 blaster designs that they can be fired with RoF 9# or a full-auto 10. I can see it being common in TL9 and TL10 conventional weapons and some light-automatic beam weapons. Because HT is newer than UT, several new options that ended up in HT got left out of UT. If you wish to make the UT conventional weapons HCCB, go right ahead!
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11-05-2016, 06:35 PM | #3 | |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
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11-05-2016, 09:29 PM | #4 |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
10 doesn't make sense as an RoF with burst-limiting. You can always fire 3 bursts (like semiauto), so the overall RoF will be a multiple of 3.
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11-06-2016, 01:02 AM | #5 |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
This. 6#, 9#, or 12# are possible, with bursts of 2, 3, or 4 rounds each, but 10# isn't a suitable RoF using HCCB. (A RoF of 9#/10 is possible, but that's three 3-round bursts or a straight 10-round burst, not a 10#.)
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11-06-2016, 02:24 AM | #6 |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
HT being newer doesn't remove the fact that HT came out after Very Rapid Fire was already a thing. If anything, I'm puzzled why HT decided that the good thing about standards is that there are so many of them. Now, I can't recall whether UT or Powers came first, and if they were edited in parallel, a lack of standardisation is understandable. But if UT came later, including VRF would've been nice.
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11-08-2016, 12:40 AM | #7 |
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Re: Ultra-Tech Guns and High Cyclic Controlled Bursts
Pistols, especially big-bore pistols. RoF 6# on a pistol offers the perfect double-tap, and the higher the gun's ordinary Rcl the more perfect it gets.
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