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Old 12-29-2010, 01:18 AM   #1
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Default [Superiors/heretical] Invocation mods for Israfel?

I've been finishing up my description of Israfel as Archangel of Music lately; most of the game mechanics are in place, but I need help coming up with six relevant invocation modifiers. An ordinary musical instrument (or a songbook) might rate +1, but where do I go from there? Pleasae help if you can!
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:56 AM   #2
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While singing or playing an instrument (+2)
In the presence of a small group playing instruments or singing together (+3
Handwritten sheet music of a composition known to at least 1000 people (+4)
In the presence of a full symphony orchestra or large professional choir performing (+5)
The original sheet music of a world famous composition (+6)
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Old 12-29-2010, 01:54 PM   #3
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how about "create a passion for music in the heart of a child? "


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Old 12-29-2010, 01:59 PM   #4
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how about "create a passion for music in the heart of a child? "
Sounds more like a mission than an invocation modifier. IMO, a modifier should be for something concrete such as an object, person or event. This sounds more ephemeral.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:09 PM   #5
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Summoning Israfel with sheet music seems a bit like summoning Jordi with the picture of a tiger.

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Sounds more like a mission than a Rite. IMO, a Rite should be something concrete such as an object, person or event. This sounds more ephemeral.
Invocation modifier, not Rite. Rites are missions, just usually really really easy ones.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:14 PM   #6
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Invocation modifier, not Rite. Rites are missions, just usually really really easy ones.
D'oh! Thanks for the catch. That's what I get for posting while half-awake. Fixing now.
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Summoning Israfel with sheet music seems a bit like summoning Jordi with the picture of a tiger.
I'm not sure the analogy holds. It's more like summoning him with a sample of tiger DNA or tiger sperm -- the sheet music can be used to call forth the real thing, just as the genetic material can be used to call forth a real tiger.

That said, I'm not sure the "famous sheet music" would be more than a +3 or +4 at best. For a +6, I might pick something like "Perform in public a composition that has not been heard for at least 100 years."
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:21 PM   #7
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Man, you just know some Lusty tried to summon Jordi while covered in tiger sperm.
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:27 PM   #8
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Given that other +6 invocation modifiers include things like "the beads traded for Manhattan" and "My God! The lost Monet!", we should probably be thinking rarer (e.g., "the rest of Beethoven's Unfinished Symphony").
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Old 12-29-2010, 06:29 PM   #9
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Given that other +6 invocation modifiers include things like "the beads traded for Manhattan" and "My God! The lost Monet!", we should probably be thinking rarer (e.g., "the rest of Beethoven's Unfinished Symphony").
Yeah. My rule of thumb with the +6 modifiers is that, if you have one in place, you're not really invoking the Superior -- he or she is already there somewhere, just waiting for you to notice them.

THAT big.
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Old 12-29-2010, 11:56 PM   #10
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note that the +6 modifier is for the ORIGINAL copy of the sheet music, the first copy ever made by a world famous composer, I think an ORIGINAL copy of one of Beethoven or Mozart's pieces ought to be worth the +6.
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