08-13-2020, 05:23 PM | #1 |
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A wine-dark void (campaign idea)
A random thought - combine ancient Greece with the Messinian salinity crisis. For those of you who are not familiar with it, the Messinian salinity crisis was when the Mediterranean sea dried up. You end up with a 3 to 5 km deep basin where the air is super hot (around 50 to 60 degrees C or so) and parched dry, made up of vast salt flats.
But how do you get the very sea-faring ancient Greece to be anything like the ancient Greece we know and love without having a sea for the sea-farers? Easy! We make them steampunk ancient Greeks. We'll wave our hands and mumble something about Hero of Alexandria, Archimedes of Syracuse, Pythagoreans, and the Antikythera mechanism, and completely ignore any distinction between Mycenean, classical, Hellenistic, and Roman-era Greece. Because it is steampunk, of course there are air ships. So we have ludicrous dirigibles with rams on their prows, carrying armored hoplites with bronze swords and spears. Airships trading across the seas. Athenian air galleys clashing with Persian airship armadas, or disgorging phalanxes to battle the Spartans. And because it is steampunk and Greek, they have solar powered Archimedean heat rays on their airships as well! Because of course they do. Their mythology probably has Athena teaching Argus the shipwright how to build the Argo, the first airship. Acrisius locked Danaë and her infant Perseus into a chest, attached them to a balloon, and tossed them off to float in the void. Odysseus wandered over the abyss for ten years in airships, and the Achaeans took a fleet of airships to sack Troy. In this setting, Poseidon is probably also the god of the void as well as the seas and horses and earthquakes, because we need him to fill a similar role to superstitious void sailors venturing out over the Mediterranean abyss. Atlantis sank into the - wait, the Atlantic is still there, so Atlantis is still underwater. Nyah! But surely there are bizarre people and monsters and lost civilizations lurking deep in the Mediterranean void. Of course, since we are pandering to a modern audience, we'll play down the more distasteful aspects of Greek culture. Like all that slavery. Ugh. The Spartans are mighty warriors, but we'll just ignore how they maintain their culture without oppressing the helots. And all that patriarchy - gotta go. We want our warrior princesses here! Players inspired by Athena or Artemis or Hippolyta or Atalanta should be free to make awesome female player characters. Now, in these more enlightened times, we certainly don't have to play down Greek homosexuality. Be sure to have plenty of scenes of naked wrestlers facing off, or well-muscled warriors stripping off their armor after a campaign and cleaning off their bodies with olive oil. And let's not forget those Amazons, or the island of Lesbos, lest the ladies miss out on the fun. For proper ancient Greek adventures, the gods should be active and magic should be afoot. Athena or Hermes or Herakles just might help out aspiring heroes, with magic items or advice or inspiration or a bit of a boost to any die roll. Zeus might flirt with an attractive PC, risking Hera's wrath. The oracle at Delphi can actually see into the future, and staring at animal entrails or observing the flight of birds really can give you clues about what is about to happen, or things that are happening far away. And of course we have to throw in nymphs and satyrs and centaurs and cyclopes and dragons and the occasional titan (with a note that dragons are of the Greek kind - limbless, like giant serpents, but often with multiple heads). Okay, that's my very silly thoughts inspired by a bizarre clash of ideas. I hope you can all have fun with it. Luke Last edited by lwcamp; 08-13-2020 at 07:42 PM. |
08-13-2020, 06:48 PM | #2 |
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Re: A wine-dark void (campaign idea)
Without the resources of the Mediterranean Sea, Ancient Greece would not exist as a civilization , as they would have lacked sufficient calories to feed a reasonable amount of peoppe. Now, you could have the Black Sea with its own TL1 civilization conquering Greece and then sending Greek slaves into the depths to mine for valuable resources.
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08-13-2020, 07:15 PM | #3 | |
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08-13-2020, 07:21 PM | #4 |
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I do get that, but I always try to keep in mind food sources and the like.
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08-13-2020, 07:36 PM | #5 | |
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So ... let's start with brine flies. These critters live around baking hot hypersaline lakes and feed on the extremophile microbes that thrive there. In real life you find them around places like Mono Lake. Here, we find them in the hypersaline remains of the Mediterranean sea, deep in the void. Then we throw in the vast swarms of Lake Malawi midges, to get vast clouds of brine fly/midges that rise up out of the void. Now let's consider swifts. From the moment a baby swift first leaves its nest, It will not touch a solid surface for three years. The only reason they ever land is to breed - in particular, they need to lay and incubate eggs. Swifts are also insect eaters, and nest on cliffs. This is all real life stuff. But our now-dry Mediterranean drops off into the void in a series of cliffs. A Mediterranean swarming with vast clouds of yummy brine flies. A perfect habitat for huge flocks of swifts. We can have even more fun with the swifts. I mean we've got cyclopes and centaurs, so we can easily make some species of swifts that are ovoviviparous and precocial. They carry their eggs inside them until they hatch, and the young start flying immediately. And predator swift-falcons that prey on the insect eating swifts. A whole aereal ecosystem out there, above the abyss of the Mediterranean. And now we have fishermen ... err, swiftermen ...lowering mist nets from their dirigibles, hauling up their catches of swifts to sell in their cities. And of course goats and olives and grapes, because Greece after all. And pita bread, olive oil, gyros sandwiches, wine and suchnot. Luke |
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08-13-2020, 07:44 PM | #6 |
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I think you will want to assume something more like the modern concept of homosexuality than the ancient Greek concept of pederasty, and avoid the assumption that man-boy (or woman-girl) love is normal, but love between two adults of the same sex is a perversion.
However, if you look to Greek legends, you can find at least some support for adventurous women; Atalanta, for one, was among the Argonauts. Though it's worth noting that women were more encouraged in the aristocratic cultures, even including Sparta, than in democratic Athens. But maybe you don't want to have that much historical realism, either.
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Suggestion: Down in the dry seabed a plant a plant developed a way to spread its seed by air. It collects hydrogen in a fruit that carries the seed upward until the "balloon fruit" bursts, were the hull becomes a natural parachute that drifts for hundreds of miles before it touches ground. Athena showed the humans how to collect and use this fruits. So we got flying galleys, lifted up by clouds of small balloons, or, in short, a mix of Pixars "Up" and 300. Hollywood, take notice. ;-)
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EDIT: Rereading the original post, I see large dirigibles were suggested, but I really think something more like an "air trireme" with internal gasbags (and, optionally, hand-cranked propellers in place of oars) works better. Archimedean heat rays are still an option, but I'd prefer for archery to be competitive with such; perhaps the heat rays can only be used to slowly damage the ship (the crew can readily deflect them with polished shields), so you can use it to take down an enemy vessel (probably by burning through the outer hull and destroying the gasbags, although simply setting the ship on fire may also work) if you can keep your distance for a while, but otherwise you need to use arrows, boarding, or ramming (if using hand-cranked propellers, sheering is also an option).
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