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Old 11-26-2019, 05:16 AM   #1
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Default Sacrificial Parry and bonus from shield.

My character's parry score is 15 without a shield, 18 with a shield, due to +3 DB from the shield.

If she parries for another player character using Sacrificial Parry, does she get the +3 DB from the shield?

If not, would she get the +3 DB, if she had both Sacrificial Parry perk and Shield-Wall training?

This is assuming without any additional ruling from GM.

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Old 11-26-2019, 05:38 AM   #2
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Default Re: Sacrificial Parry and bonus from shield.

I think she should get it, in the system the general rule is shields make it easier for her to parry by adding their DB*, and I can't remember any specific exemption from this general rule under the specific sacrificial parry/defence rules. If the sacrificial parry was successful by 3 or less MoS I'd picture this as the attack hitting the shield, at MoS 4 or more it would contact the parrying weapon.

Having the shield wall perk would negate having to make it a sacrificial parry at all (in some cases) she'll be eligible to defend some attacks on her mate anyway.



*maybe that's a question in itself but that's another matter!
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:03 AM   #3
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Default Re: Sacrificial Parry and bonus from shield.

Actually that raises a point, I know often making the parry/dodge only due to the DB bonus is interpreted as the attack contacting the shield. But do people play that out in terms of potential damage on weapons / negative effects on parrying some attacks etc?
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Old 11-26-2019, 08:47 AM   #4
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Actually that raises a point, I know often making the parry/dodge only due to the DB bonus is interpreted as the attack contacting the shield. But do people play that out in terms of potential damage on weapons / negative effects on parrying some attacks etc?
Another way to interpret it is only having to parry/dodge attacks in a limited area since the attack is avoiding the shield, making the defense roll easier.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:20 AM   #5
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Another way to interpret it is only having to parry/dodge attacks in a limited area since the attack is avoiding the shield, making the defense roll easier.
Good point!
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:01 PM   #6
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Default Re: Sacrificial Parry and bonus from shield.

The sacrificial parry write-up in Dungeon Fantasy 15: Henchmen specifically states that Shield DB never counts.
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Old 11-27-2019, 01:34 PM   #7
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Thanks to everyone. I take Gnomasz's reply as the answer.

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