01-14-2022, 01:50 AM | #1 |
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What a Military Supply Depot Contains
For one of my games the PCs have found a National Guard supply depot in the States. What might it contain. I currently have:
I've also decided they have a barracks, small machine shop, and of course supply buildings. What am I missing? References to GURPS books with equipment a huge plus. A little help would be most appreciated.
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01-14-2022, 02:30 AM | #2 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
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01-14-2022, 03:47 AM | #3 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
Would it have a space that could be used as a bunker?
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01-14-2022, 03:56 AM | #4 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
The depot will also have enough trucks to transport the attached squads as well as some supplies for field operations. The exeption is if it's so small there's only a single squad present, but I find that unlikely if the depot is large enough to have a repair shop.
Depending on size and distance to the nearest town, there may be a cafeteria/mess hall on site. Even a single-squad depot will at the very least have a kitchen and pantry. MREs are only used in the field. They may be edible, but they're not good for morale in non-combat situations. A well stocked supply depot will have a large variety of spare parts for whatever weapons, vehicles, machinery and electronics are used by the garrison. They will likely not have everything and expensive components are likely to be missing or in low supply. Depending on the nature of them, fragile components may either be in abundance (for relatively cheap stuff that's expected to break) or non-existant (due to contracts and/or cost of individual components). Spare parts for weapons will likely be enough to fully repair a large amount of the weapons expected to be in use. For vehicles expect enough major parts to fully repair at least one of each type of vehicle, but not much more than that. Small spare parts for vehicles are likely plentiful unless highly expensive. As far as "how many" weapons, a rifle for each private and sergeant and a sidearm for each officer. Depending on the size and purpose of the garrison there will be an amount of specialized weapons (sniper rifles, mortars, etc.), a sniper rifle will as a general rule replace a standard rifle, while mortars and other such weapons will often be considered additions to a squad and not replace basic rifles. There will likely be enough spare rifles for a single squad. For weapons not in use at a well organized site, expect the firing mechanism to be stored separately (and under lock) from the rest of the weapon. Depending on the size of the garrison, the ammo on site could fit in a small van or it could require several large vehicles. Actual amounts are almost certainly a military secret, but an estimate would be "enough to carry out an operation fit for the garrison's size". The security of the ammo depot can vary a lot (politics, location, leadership, etc.), but always expect it to be the most secure building (or room) on site unless there is something like a presidential bunker present. But all that assumes a competent quartermaster and commanding officer. |
01-14-2022, 05:08 AM | #5 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
Don't forget computer systems which give a complete inventory of the depot, including where each pallet and vehicle - all numbered, of course - is located and the destination, if already known. Very good chance that there are laptops and radio equipment in storage at the depot as well.
There will also be a "junk pile" or more accurately a series of dumpsters where wooden pallets, broken equipment, etc. are tossed Also, there is a very good chance there are other vehicles there as well. A few MRAPs (Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected) slated to replace Hummers are likely, as are a number of cargo trucks (used to transport to and from the depot) and armor recovery vehicles. In an extreme case, you'll have tanks, Bradleys, LAVs, APCs, and DPVs sitting there waiting to be deployed either to military or National Guard bases. This may help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_Armed_Forces For ammunition, you can expect hundreds of pallets of each type, with the standard ball ammunition being most common. Each pallet will likely have twenty to thirty cases of a hundred rounds each. (Rough guestimate.)
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01-14-2022, 05:34 AM | #6 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
It's going to heavily vary by type of depot, importance of depot, etc.
I grew up visiting what is an ostensibly national guard depot that my grandfather (and several uncles) were stationed at. I only later learned that it was the primary ordnance supply depot for much of the western US. There were (and still are) many miles of ammo bunkers, that included, at the time, roughly 40% of the US stock of chemical weapons (most have been destroyed by this point in time, a project that took nearly 20 years). There was, and probably still is, a rather large supply of conventional munitions along with other sundry supplies. The visible part of the base is fairly small, perhaps enough for a company. But the less visible part stretches far enough to border on a much larger national guard base (and oddly state police academy), 40ish miles away. To make it more interesting, the supply depot is nestled between two air force bombing ranges. Maybe that can give you some ideas to play with as well. Edit: At a guess, unclass, I'm aware of several sections of a hundred bunkers assigned to mortar, howitzer, etc. that would be packed floor to ceiling. An aerial image of just the area nearest the visible base.
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It depends on the nature of the depot, how big the state National Guard organization is, and how many other depots there are supporting it. In general, the depot should have all necessary expendable supplies to support the entire National Guard organization for 30-90 days in the field, split up among the total number of available depots. It will also have on-hand replacements for durable items (weapons, tents, radios, GPS, NVG's, etc.) that might get damaged in the same 30-90 day period. Quote:
Specialty ammo (Patriot missiles, say) may be stored centrally somewhere else, but you probably don't care about that. There certainly won't be any nuclear or lethal chemical munitions, though there might be an excess of less-lethal chemicals (CS, etc.) for riot control/civil disturbance purposes. Quote:
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There will also be medical supplies, spare parts, and pallets with boxes of "personal demand items" ("sundry packs" with shaving cream, razors, lip balm, sunscreen, candy, etc.). Quote:
You might consider whether any of the local Guard units have their armories on the depot. Certainly, if the GS maintenance is a tactical unit (a battalion) rather than an administrative function, they will have at least one company stationed with the shop. Quote:
The hard part is going to be finding what you want. Ammunition will be stored in bulk by type, although there may be a few bunkers configured to unit basic loads for quick deployment. Just remember that everything is distributed in ways that make sense to logisticians, not operators: radios are in one bunker, batteries are in another one halfway across post. All of those tons of ammunition will be stored in buried concrete bunkers, but they only have one (big) door and very limited ventilation. Most of the other supplies will also be stored in bunkers, both for climate control and because there are probably more of them than are really needed (since the end of the Cold War). Quote:
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01-14-2022, 05:49 AM | #8 |
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4 Humvees per platoon.
1 m4 per soldier 1 pistol per officer at least 1 m247 per team at least 1 grenade launcher per team radio supplies tent supplies MREs clothing supplies manuals for using all this stuff lockers for each solider with what ever they leave there, usually all the gear they would need to deploy like flic, pouches, extra boots, bulletproof vest, etc. computers/laptops what would not be there: Ammo. Ammo is held at a separate facility that handles only ammo. |
01-14-2022, 06:31 AM | #9 |
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Re: What a Military Supply Depot Contains
Things that I haven't seen already mentioned:
Things that shouldn't be there but probably are
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Then the depot needs people to run all its material-handling equipment (forklifts, etc.) to unload supplies as they arrive or move them around as needed. With headquarters, figure the minimum is several hundred people assigned to the depot, most of them working weekday schedules. On-base housing is very expensive to run and only technically needed for unmarried junior military personnel, so unless the depot is beyond commuting distance (up to ~ 60 miles) from the nearest town, there probably won't be much of anyone actually living on the base -- the depot commander and ops/chief of staff (in historic brick houses) and newly arrived junior enlisted who haven't found an apartment in town. Quote:
The logisticians who use the system are resigned to its quirks and know the work-arounds to get the most out of it. Anyone else who comes in expecting to turn it on and go is likely in for a rude shock. Similar comments apply to the organization and labeling of the depot itself. I have yet to see a depot (even, or perhaps especially, a small one) with all the bunkers clearly labelled on a plan which is posted in plain sight and with matching numbers on the bunkers themselves. More often, the bunkers are (e.g.) labelled with their building number in the facilities database (3361), but the supply software refers to them by block letter and serial number (A-44). The logisticians know what goes where because they do it every day, but no one else does. |
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