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Old 03-03-2019, 07:31 AM   #11
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One of those is a pure semantic issue: cilantro and coriander are the same plant. They even have the same name - korandros through slightly different lenses. A surprising number of people think cilantro is a New World crop grown forever alongside tomatoes.
I was aware that cilantro and coriander are the same plant. But still, as a report on my own linguistic usage, I would call coriander a spice, but not cilantro. It's normally used green and fresh, and it doesn't taste "spicy."
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Old 03-03-2019, 08:33 AM   #12
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Cultured meat is starting to be a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat.

If cow-from-a-vat doesn't do it for you, entomoculture is compact, thrifty, and very efficient at turning calories into protein. Think mealworms, house crickets, Blaptica dubia roaches ('dubias"), Zophobas morio worms ("superworms"), butter worms. Silkworms are also common on earth, but require mulberry, so they might not be available.

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Old 03-03-2019, 12:38 PM   #13
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I was aware that cilantro and coriander are the same plant. But still, as a report on my own linguistic usage, I would call coriander a spice, but not cilantro. It's normally used green and fresh, and it doesn't taste "spicy."
Whereas I call the fresh green leafy stuff that looks a bit like parsley and that tastes horrid "coriander", and its seeds "coriander seeds". That's how they get labelled around here, too.
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Old 03-03-2019, 03:36 PM   #14
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Foods that are intended for microgravity have a couple of characteristics:

* Spicy, since fluid imbalances mess with your sense of taste (red kibble is a nod to this).
* Thick sauces help keep the ingredients on the plate.
* No crumbs to float about the cabin, getting into things. Tortillas are preferable to bread in loaves. Some snacks (e.g., cookies and crackers) can be made bite-sized to avoid this.
* Most condiments are liquids anyway, but salt is dissolved in water while pepper is suspended in oil.
* Drinkable liquids (like soups) have to fit through a straw, so no chicken noodle.

Kilo for kilo, insects produce the most animal protein. Just sayin'...
Cookies will tend to be soft/chewy, to reduce crumble, as well.

Crackers are going to be a problem unless freshly made... the brittleness leads to crumbs. This can be mitigated by being coated with a shell.

Crunch will likely be only in fruits and veggies, or inside soft-shelled items (such as petit fours, chocolate bars).

Yoghurt coated, fondant wrapped, or chocolate coated cookies, crackers and pretzels are much safer than "naked" ones.
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Old 03-03-2019, 05:00 PM   #15
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Cookies will tend to be soft/chewy, to reduce crumble, as well.
If you only assume American cookies then yes this is true.
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:06 PM   #16
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Silkworms are also common on Earth, but require mulberry, so they might not be available.
I've heard that you can raise them on violets, but I grew up in a climate that supports mulberries and not violets, so I never tried it.
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:40 PM   #17
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If you only assume American cookies then yes this is true.
every European cookie I've had (all imports) have been prone to minor crumbling... except when completely coated. I'd be happy to try some that didn't... but not practical on my budget (or lack thereof).
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:48 AM   #18
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That raises a sweetener question -- honey? sugar beets? chemical? Sugar cane seems far too water intensive.
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Old 03-04-2019, 07:06 AM   #19
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That raises a sweetener question -- honey? sugar beets? chemical? Sugar cane seems far too water intensive.
Again, with ultra-tech chemistry, chemically synthesized sugar seems likely to be common, particularly for smaller habitats and spacecraft without the room for a big hydroponics installation. Sugar beets are probably #2, followed by corn syrup and other vegetable-based sugars. I suspect that for cane, the issue isn't water (which can be recycled) so much as sunlight (which it needs a lot of). Traditional Belter cuisine, far from the Sun, won't use a lot of cane sugar, even though by TL9/10 cheap fusion will provide more than enough light artificially. Bees need a complex ecosystem, so honey won't be any more common than cane sugar.
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:43 AM   #20
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One of my PCs in a troupe-style GURPS Space game is a old-school Belter (Essentially Earth's system) with Cooking as a hobby skill. One of her things is cooking for her team -- traditional Belter cuisine.

Details haven't come up yet, but I'm pondering what traditional Belter cuisine would be. TL is 9-10, contragrav on the large ship/space station/asteroid base exists. Trade with Earth would be limited.

Default sustinence would be fungal food vat paste with flavoring.

But what sorts of Belter gourmet ingredients might there be? Meats like rabbit or guinea pig? Chicken? Goats? Veggies and fruit that do well in hydroponics and are relatively efficient food for resources? Farmed freshwater fish in water tanks? Spices that could be hydroponically grown or grown in greenhouses?

Sadly, fresh coffee and real chocolate is right out.
Belter food would either be imported or produced in artificial environments (of which for our purposes counts vat paste, "replicators" and other stuff that sounds either annoying or yucky as well as hydroponic gardens which we already have).

There is no reason fresh coffee and real chocolate cannot be served. It may have to be imported and it may be expensive, but what does one do with all that dirt scratched out of a cold rock anyway?
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