Tying Stuff to Your Backpack

[acrosome]

Packing a backpack efficiently and finding things in it quickly is a canonical use of Soldier skill, right? So, obviously "backpack stuff" is within the purview of Soldier skill.

Often in GURPS more than one skill can apply to a task. I think this is one of them.

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Originally Posted by safisher

High-Tech p.54 has rules for fitting a pack, and what happens if you have good packs or one that doesn't fit (...)

Very nice, especially the table you provided!

[jason taylor]

Originally Posted by acrosome

Packing a backpack efficiently and finding things in it quickly is a canonical use of Soldier skill, right? So, obviously "backpack stuff" is within the purview of Soldier skill.

Often in GURPS more than one skill can apply to a task. I think this is one of them.

Is there a Survival: General?

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by jason taylor

Is there a Survival: General?

Sure, it's basically Survival -4 (which is the default roll for any Survival from another Survival). But for this... I might call it -2?


Honestly, this really best fits Hiking and Professional Skill (that covers maintaining a packed kit, but only if that kit really does include a heavy pack).

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by safisher

High-Tech p.54 has rules for fitting a pack, and what happens if you have good packs or one that doesn't fit. So, roll Soldier or IQ-based Hiking roll to lash on gear and get the pack to be balanced, not rub you in the wrong place, overly stress some points, poke a hole in the pack, etc. And by the way, I'd extend the discussion on Load-Bearing Equipment to packs, so that the same roll helps you pack your quality ruck and not make excessive noise.

As for capacity, I'd say the maximum weight for any pack is probably 2x the stated capacity. If we rationalized this out we could have:

Small, Cheap: 50 lbs, capacity, HT8. 2.5 lbs., $25.
Small, Cheap: 50 lbs, capacity, HT10. 3.75 lbs., $25.
Small, Normal: 50 lbs, capacity, HT10. 2.5 lbs., $50.
Small, Rugged: 50 lbs, capacity, HT12. 3 lbs., $100.
Small, Expensive: 50 lbs, capacity, HT10. 1.6 lbs., $100.
Small, Expensive, Rugged: 50 lbs, capacity, HT12. 2 lbs., $200.

Medium, Cheap: 75 lbs. capacity, HT8. 5 lbs., $38.
Medium, Cheap: 75 lbs. capacity, HT10. 7.5 lbs., $38.
Medium: 75 lbs. capacity, HT10. 5 lbs., $75.
Medium, Rugged: 75 lbs. capacity, HT 12. 6 lbs., $150.
Medium, Expensive: 75 lbs. capacity, HT10. 3.3 lbs., $150.
Medium, Expensive, Rugged: 75 lbs. capacity, HT12. 4 lbs., $300.

Large, Cheap: 100 lbs. capacity, HT8. 8 lbs., $50.
Large, Cheap: 100 lbs. capacity, HT10. 12 lbs., $50.
Large: 100 lbs. capacity, 8 lbs., HT10. $100.
Large, Rugged: 100 lbs. capacity, HT12. 10 lbs., $200.
Large, Expensive: 100 lbs. capacity, HT10. 5.3 lbs., $200.
Large, Expensive, Rugged: 100 lbs. capacity, HT12. 6.6 lbs., $400.

Or something like that. Then, if the GM really wants to punish the player, roll Soldier or IQ-based Hiking each day, with a failure meaning the pack rolls HT! See Maintaining Gadgets, High-Tech, p.9.

That is exactly what I wanted to know. Perfect. Thank you, S.A.!

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

Sure, it's basically Survival -4 (which is the default roll for any Survival from another Survival). But for this... I might call it -2?

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All "normal" land-based terrrains Default to each other at -3. "Radioactive Wasteland" is not "normal" and has no Default. Aquatic "terrains" are another matter of course. So is Urban.

With that relatively generous and _very_ broad set of Defaults at -3 it's going to be difficult to make a non-specific but Defaults to all other land-based
terrains look particularly good.

If you just pick one terrain you'll get that one at full value and everything else at a -3. Everything at -2 is kind of "meh" but everything at -1 might be too good.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Fred Brackin

All "normal" land-based terrrains Default to each other at -3.

My bad, I thought they were -4... huh, even defaulting to Naturalist is only -3. Wonder where I'm getting it from?