Tying Stuff to Your Backpack

[adm]

The whole point of a frame back pack is that they can hold more than the bag, they're made to hang rope, bed rolls or additional smaller bags on them. Quality ones are designed so that the frame can carry more weight, than any of its bags.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Exactly, so how much weight can they hold?

[adm]

That I have no idea, my Dad had one from the 1960's, the frame could hold more than I* could pick up.


*Grew up on a farm bucking hay bales, and doing construction work. At my peak I could carry 230 pounds of concrete bags 100' or so, with some effort, 70#s under each arm, 90#s on my shoulders.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Anthony

The weight limit is not for the bag. The weight limit is for the back pack. And no, there's no strong reason to think the frame's weight limit is higher than the pack's weight limit.

This is so incorrect... as adm has noted. I also have seriously overpacked my old frame pack and have had no issues with it.

Originally Posted by Christopher R. Rice

Exactly, so how much weight can they hold?

/shrug.gif

I know I had about 200lbs on my old scout frame pack... and the pack was from the 70's (all aluminum and nylon) and it held up. I did this when I was homeless in the early 00's and needed to trek stuff across the city from one couch to another.

I could have easily strapped more to the sides, but didn't.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by adm

The whole point of a frame back pack is that they can hold more than the bag, they're made to hang rope, bed rolls or additional smaller bags on them.

Yes, but that's already incorporated in the stats of the backpack (I mean, the pack stats might be wrong, but that's separate). Realistically, packs have both weight limits and volume limits, and hanging stuff off the sides is a way to get around volume limits, not weight limits.

[(E)]

I've done hill climbs with 240lbs plus snacks in a modern pack with a frame. Filled with iron ballast and water.
The pack held up fine.

I've also killed a military pack by hauling RPG books around in it. The cubic shape of the load stressed odd points of the pack which wore quickly.

[Hide]

Originally Posted by Anthony

(...) hanging stuff off the sides is a way to get around volume limits, not weight limits.

Indeed. That’s why I mentioned the tension resistance/limits!

[Celjabba]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

This isn't necessarily true. Just because a bag can contain 50 pounds, doesn't mean that's anywhere near the Character's limit.



For instance, I have a Character with a Basic lift of 180.

Not what I mean. A badly fitted bag can hurt you by applying pressure at the wrong place / with deformed straps.
A bag over his weight limit is badly fitted.

Obviously, it you can stuff the backpack in your pocket, it won't matter :). But a weightlifter could hurt himself with a 40 lbs bag.

[Celjabba]

Originally Posted by Christopher R. Rice

Exactly, so how much weight can they hold?

Depend on the bag.

An ultralight hiking bag, not so much above the rated limit.
Some of my own ultralights, I suspect the frame may bend before the bag tear.

However, an old style heavy bag with a strong metal or wood frame... lots, perhaps more than an average human can lift.
Certainly, a cast iron pan won't damage it. A cauldron, now ...

[Prince Charon]

Originally Posted by Celjabba

Depend on the bag.

An ultralight hiking bag, not so much above the rated limit.
Some of my own ultralights, I suspect the frame may bend before the bag tear.

However, an old style heavy bag with a strong metal or wood frame... lots, perhaps more than an average human can lift.
Certainly, a cast iron pan won't damage it. A cauldron, now ...

That depends on the cauldron. A small one, suitable for making soup for one or two people, or three if it's a snack or just not a big part of the meal, isn't likely to be a problem. A good cast-iron skillet is still probably better, though, as it can more easily serve as a self-defence tool in an emergency (especially if you're decently strong and have a better-than-average Axe/Mace skill).