Latter-Day Saints in Yrth

[Anders]

Is there any part during the history of the LDS church that a significant number of people could disappear and get transported to Yrth?And how would the established Church react to them there? I suppose they could survive in Cardiel, but Megalos?

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Is there any part during the history of the LDS church that a significant number of people could disappear and get transported to Yrth?And how would the established Church react to them there? I suppose they could survive in Cardiel, but Megalos?

They might be okay in Cardiel, or at least in the Cardien section of Tredroy.

Muslims are not likely to take well to Mormon polytheism or missionary zeal.
The Al Wazifi section of Tredroy might tolerate them, though.


Megalos would persecute them. It doesn't even tolerant Protestants, who are, after all, fellow Christians. No way it's going to tolerate Mormons. Think Albigensian Crusade.
I doubt that Caithness would accept them, either.



They might head out into the Great Desert and set up a New Zion.

Or maybe flee north to the Nomad Lands, where their belief in multiple gods would be seen as normal.

[combatmedic]

Joseph Smith practiced folk magic. That was very much part of the milleu in which he grew up, and it's part of the early history of Mormonism.

If some 19th century Mormons were swept to Yrth, they might take to certain kids of magic in fairly short order.

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Is there any part during the history of the LDS church that a significant number of people could disappear and get transported to Yrth?

A skim of the Wikipedia article reveals two places, one rather interesting. The ordinary one would be a party on the Mormon Trail between Illinois and Salt Lake City, subsequent to the initial migration: the trail was used sporadically until the beginning of the 20th century. The interesting one would be a shipload of Danish converts: quite a few of these emigrated to the USA in the 19th century.

And how would the established Church react to them there? I suppose they could survive in Cardiel, but Megalos?

The Megalos Church wouldn't regard them as Christians. They would be treated as heretics of a very comprehensive nature. Adding a whole extra volume of scripture will do that.

[Polydamas]

I suspect that polygamy would be a sticking point, unless these Mormons were all the sort who believe that it is forbidden forever. With the Moslem states it would depend on whether people of the book who got their revelation after Mohammed count.

I suspect that a village or three could survive in the backwoods of any country as long as they refrained from missionary work, and a few hundred Mormons disappearing in the 19th century would not be implausible.

[Anders]

I propose a somewhat unorthodox theory - that the Banestorm does not actually snatch, but copies. This solves problems about removing large segments of the population from Earth.

This also allows for copies of famous people to be taken, although that's obviously not typical (given that only the common people are actually common). But what if a copy of Joseph Smith was taken as his life was ebbing away on June 27th 1844?

I'll assume that the atheist version of history is right - Joseph Smith is not the actual Prophet. However, he must have been an intelligent and charismatic person. He also had the good fortune to land in an Elven village, where he was healed. They knew Anglish and he picked it up while recuperating. He also picked up Elvish...

Today there are a number of Elven villages that follow the Church of Latter-Day Saints in the Southwestern parts of the Great Forest. A lot of human settlers live there as well, but they are prevented from exploiting the area overmuch by the Elves. There has been a number of revelations showing without a doubt that Yrth is the New Promised Land and that Elves are the Chosen people. Megalos is the great whore and the muslims are 'dark and hideous' - a fallen race. But the main threats to the faithful are a) the Dark Elves - who view any Elf following the words of a Human as an abomination; and b) Orcs.

According to neo-Mormon theology, Dark Elves are fallen Elves - they have turned from the path of the Lord and chosen to worship themselves. Their pride in using magic rather than faith exposed their folly when the Banestorm appeared. While all other Elves are potential converts, Dark Elves are to be killed on sight.

Orcs are the direct offspring of the Devil, set here as a test of faith. This theological innovation has explained a lot of things to the neo-Mormon Elves who didn't have the very useful tool of the Devil before. Setting up the Orcs as an example of the Ultimate Evil sat very well in their view of the world.

[Astromancer]

Transport a group of Mormon settlers, or maybe a small town, from about ten to twenty years after settlement to the Ocrlands fairly near Caithness. Pull a couple of bands of Native Americans with them too. Have the Mormons and the Native Americans ban together to survive. Later on, have knights from Caithness hear rumors from captive Orcs about strangers that kill with thunder-locks. Allow the Mormon/(Local Native American tribe that got dragged along) group to hold on to some of TL5 and to have picked up some magic.

It could be an interesting little campaign.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Is there any part during the history of the LDS church that a significant number of people could disappear and get transported to Yrth?And how would the established Church react to them there? I suppose they could survive in Cardiel, but Megalos?

1837-1838. The Church was going through a rough spell and some members broke off and/or were expelled. And really all you need is one family to start things rolling. The first expedition westward looking for a place to settle converted a whole local congregation almost as soon at it arrived in Ohio, more than a hundred people.

[combatmedic]

Originally Posted by Astromancer

Transport a group of Mormon settlers, or maybe a small town, from about ten to twenty years after settlement to the Ocrlands fairly near Caithness. Pull a couple of bands of Native Americans with them too. Have the Mormons and the Native Americans ban together to survive. Later on, have knights from Caithness hear rumors from captive Orcs about strangers that kill with thunder-locks. Allow the Mormon/(Local Native American tribe that got dragged along) group to hold on to some of TL5 and to have picked on some magic.

It could be an interesting little campaign.

Caithness to victory!Saint George!

[malloyd]

Originally Posted by Polydamas

With the Moslem states it would depend on whether people of the book who got their revelation after Mohammed count.

They don't. In fact many of them are classed as more evil than outright pagans.

They almost never do, its one of the standard things fringe cults blow up over - the guru dies, the new leader claims God talks to him too and.... LDS is actually pretty unusual in sucessfully implementing fairly significant changes in practice from ongoing prophecy, though I imagine there would be limits even there.