Doing strange things with Resonances

[Rocket Man]

Originally Posted by Azel

Demolition experts blow stuff up. Demolitions experts don't shrug their due diligence to "accidentally graze" targeted parties. A terrorist gleefully does due diligence to blow up targeted parties directly. If you want a Role to cover up explosions, there's one already available in the Symphony. So trying to skirt intent by contorting one to supplant the other (and its consequences) defeats the spirit of the game's and GM's judgment.

Could a Balseraph (or someone else, for that matter) set up a Role as a reckless demolitions expert? Or a clumsy surgeon? Or a negligent attorney? Yes, there are corporeal-world consequences for all of these, including the need to conceal one's activities from the corporeal authorities. But the same could be said of a Role as a terrorist or serial killer.

For that matter, what steps would a celestial take to transform a more responsible Role (demolitions engineer) into a less responsible one (insane terrorist)? Could you document that evolution in a way the Symphony would accept? If so, Liars have a little more elbow room if they're careful.

[Matthias Wasser]

Well, in the normal way that an engineer (or anyone else) becomes a terrorist: you join a group with your ideology of choice, establish and follow protocols to avoid detection by the authorities, and then plan and execute clandestine acts of violence to further your political goals. (Phrased this way, I suppose most Celestials serving Corporeal duties are pretty much there, but as far as Roles are concerned you'd probably want to embed yourself in a legitimately human operation.)

As for incompetence being part of your Role: my intuition is that Roles have to be authentic; if you have a Role as a professional boxer then you get paid to punch people in a ring, and so on. If you're actually really good at it, and are just deliberately fudging, I don't think you could acquire incompetence as part of the Role, since you're not actually being incompetent, just crafty. You could maybe incorporate extra unnecessary destruction for other reasons, but if the reason is say that you're just so wacky and random, I suspect a deliberate, non-wacky non-random act of destruction wouldn't be covered.

[Omegonthesane]

Necroing because more edge cases.

What happens to a Shedite of the Game, currently under Humanity, who fails a resonance roll while oozing into a new human?

Is there a specific ruling forbidding a Balseraph of Fate with the Grigori resonance?

Is Kronos physically able to grant his Balseraph attunement to Balseraphs not directly in his service?

Since it came up in earlier discussions, does a Balseraph-Malakite of Fate get immunity to Trauma?

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by Omegonthesane

Necroing because more edge cases.

What happens to a Shedite of the Game, currently under Humanity, who fails a resonance roll while oozing into a new human?

I thought any sort of demon using Humanity was unable to do anything a human can't do - including use its resonance. I could be wrong, though.

Originally Posted by Omegonthesane

Is there a specific ruling forbidding a Balseraph of Fate with the Grigori resonance?

I'm not aware of one from a game-mechanics standpoint.

Does Kronos know about Grigori, though? They were active while the demons were still sealed in Hell, after all.

Originally Posted by Omegonthesane

Is Kronos physically able to grant his Balseraph attunement to Balseraphs not directly in his service?

Any Superior can grant his Band (or Choir) Attunement to any member of the matching Band (or Choir).

Originally Posted by Omegonthesane

Since it came up in earlier discussions, does a Balseraph-Malakite of Fate get immunity to Trauma?

Good question. What did the earlier discussions say, again? (Especially the ones where AABeth took part.)

[Rocket Man]

Originally Posted by robkelk

I thought any sort of demon using Humanity was unable to do anything a human can't do - including use its resonance. I could be wrong, though.

From the Asmodeus sourcebook section on Humanity:

He may use attunements, both passive ones and
those requiring Essence to fuel them (including Humanity
itself), as well as his basic resonance ...

[William]

Originally Posted by Omegonthesane

Is there a specific ruling forbidding a Balseraph of Fate with the Grigori resonance?

Book says no "known" cases, which is a strong suggestion but not explicitly forbidding it.

Since it came up in earlier discussions, does a Balseraph-Malakite of Fate get immunity to Trauma?

According to various pronouncements by high-ups, nope, just resonance.

[Omegonthesane]

If a human possessed by a Shedite is attacked with Ethereal Entropy or high level Numinous Corpus: Tongue, who takes Mind hits, the host or the guest? (Or both?)

If a Shedite is possessing something which doesn't have Mind hits (e.g. a Vaputech laptop, or a Fire Shedite possessing a fire), does the situation change?

[robkelk]

I'd say whoever's in charge would take the Mind hits. If the Shedite is just making suggestions to a possessed human, the human takes the damage; if the Shedite is "driving the bus," it takes the hits.