Modern military maps

Koshka · 10-07-2011, 11:37 AM

My players are almost ready to head into a gang base that was originally built as a National Guard armory before the world turned into a post-apoc setting. I'm reluctant to try Googling for suitable maps because I'd rather not have Homeland Security on my case. (With a major Air Force base just south of me, they'd have to investigate.) OTOH, three of my players are former military, so I need a layout that's somewhat plausible. Does anyone know of a gaming map download that would work? Hexgrid preferred, but I can convert from square grid.

Alternately, how hard would it be to adapt a fortress map from a fantasy setting?

sir_pudding · 10-07-2011, 12:13 PM

If it's just an armory it's not a very complicated structure. Natty Guard armories are IME always single story buildings that combine a few offices, an outdoor motor pool, an open bay, and an armory. You don't need to adapt a medieval fortress, rather think of a very small rural elementary school or something.

ak_aramis · 10-07-2011, 03:05 PM

The ones I've seen are usually:

A) Hangar model
Large central garage/formation area. Typically 8-10m ceiling, 6-8m wide, 10-20m long.
offices & classrooms with 4m ceiling to either side, sometimes with a second story with bunkrooms and supply rooms.
The armory proper may be a second building, and is heavily reinforced concrete. usually 10m x 5m or so, with a 4-5m ceiling.
A separate fallout bunker may exist, or a bunker may be under the offices.

B) Quonset Huts
5m radius quonset huts:
1 for garage and formation space, usually 15m long.
1 divided in half between the offices and armory. also 15-20m long
A 3rd might be present for barracks. 15 to 30m long.
A large enough facility might have multiples.

C) miniature bases.
Dedicated purpose built concrete and/or wood buildings.

In all cases, the armory proper has one entry door to an antechamber/guard post, and a large, secured area for weapons storage, often with an issue window. Larger armories might have a secure loading bay for 2.5 ton trucks. The buildings are pretty straightforward. Some are divided into several secure chambers; one for ammo, one for small arms, one for explosive ordinance, one for other restricted issue items; each such has an issue port.

There is a former guard armory with maps online:
http://www.sfarmory.com/floorplans.php

And some proposed plans:
http://stillwater.govoffice.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={84F617F4-5CC2-4E72-A953-C49B82D6F1C5}
http://www.urbantallahassee.com/v4/i...lete&Itemid=88

sjard · 10-08-2011, 02:14 AM

The small elementary school thing is the most common I've experienced. My guard armory while I was still in consisted of a large bay area (double basketball court (complete with the lines and hoops), a small barracks area above the bleachers, half a dozen offices around the bay, and an equipment storage room with attached weapons locker. Outside was a parking area about the same size as the building where we kept the vehicles (engineering battalion company).

Koshka · 10-08-2011, 10:13 AM

Thanks, everyone!

Lord Carnifex · 10-08-2011, 02:18 PM

Hmm... if anyone is knowledgable and has the time, writing up a National Guard armory might make a decent Location article for Pyramid. Not just layout, but a roster of equipment and weapons, and how such a place might be used. I could see that being useful for Action, Atomic Horror, and Post-Apocalyptic games.

dcarson · 10-08-2011, 02:46 PM

The Design Guides / Standards (AFDG) has design guides for all kinds of Air Force facilities. From munition storage to snack bars. Also Nike Missile bases at this site.

RogerBW · 10-08-2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Carnifex

Hmm... if anyone is knowledgable and has the time, writing up a National Guard armory might make a decent Location article for Pyramid. Not just layout, but a roster of equipment and weapons, and how such a place might be used. I could see that being useful for Action, Atomic Horror, and Post-Apocalyptic games.

Or, if a bit longer, a Locations book - see the e23 wish list.

The Colonel · 10-08-2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak_aramis

There is a former guard armory with maps online:
http://www.sfarmory.com/floorplans.php

Looks ... vaguely familiar. Do I remember some kind of scandal about it being used for filiming porn movies or something?

Anaraxes · 10-08-2011, 09:00 PM

Yes. The SF Armory was bought in 2006 by Kink.com, and used as a studio for production of, uh, content for their web sites.

10-07-2011, 11:37 AM	#1
Koshka Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha NE	Modern military maps My players are almost ready to head into a gang base that was originally built as a National Guard armory before the world turned into a post-apoc setting. I'm reluctant to try Googling for suitable maps because I'd rather not have Homeland Security on my case. (With a major Air Force base just south of me, they'd have to investigate.) OTOH, three of my players are former military, so I need a layout that's somewhat plausible. Does anyone know of a gaming map download that would work? Hexgrid preferred, but I can convert from square grid. Alternately, how hard would it be to adapt a fortress map from a fantasy setting?

10-07-2011, 12:13 PM	#2
sir_pudding Wielder of Smart Pants Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ventura CA	Re: Modern military maps If it's just an armory it's not a very complicated structure. Natty Guard armories are IME always single story buildings that combine a few offices, an outdoor motor pool, an open bay, and an armory. You don't need to adapt a medieval fortress, rather think of a very small rural elementary school or something.

10-07-2011, 03:05 PM	#3
ak_aramis Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alsea, OR	Re: Modern military maps The ones I've seen are usually: A) Hangar model Large central garage/formation area. Typically 8-10m ceiling, 6-8m wide, 10-20m long. offices & classrooms with 4m ceiling to either side, sometimes with a second story with bunkrooms and supply rooms. The armory proper may be a second building, and is heavily reinforced concrete. usually 10m x 5m or so, with a 4-5m ceiling. A separate fallout bunker may exist, or a bunker may be under the offices. B) Quonset Huts 5m radius quonset huts: 1 for garage and formation space, usually 15m long. 1 divided in half between the offices and armory. also 15-20m long A 3rd might be present for barracks. 15 to 30m long. A large enough facility might have multiples. C) miniature bases. Dedicated purpose built concrete and/or wood buildings. In all cases, the armory proper has one entry door to an antechamber/guard post, and a large, secured area for weapons storage, often with an issue window. Larger armories might have a secure loading bay for 2.5 ton trucks. The buildings are pretty straightforward. Some are divided into several secure chambers; one for ammo, one for small arms, one for explosive ordinance, one for other restricted issue items; each such has an issue port. There is a former guard armory with maps online: http://www.sfarmory.com/floorplans.php And some proposed plans: http://stillwater.govoffice.com/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={84F617F4-5CC2-4E72-A953-C49B82D6F1C5} http://www.urbantallahassee.com/v4/i...lete&Itemid=88

10-08-2011, 02:14 AM	#4
sjard Stick in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rural Utah	Re: Modern military maps The small elementary school thing is the most common I've experienced. My guard armory while I was still in consisted of a large bay area (double basketball court (complete with the lines and hoops), a small barracks area above the bleachers, half a dozen offices around the bay, and an equipment storage room with attached weapons locker. Outside was a parking area about the same size as the building where we kept the vehicles (engineering battalion company). __________________ MIB #1457

10-08-2011, 10:13 AM	#5
Koshka Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Omaha NE	Re: Modern military maps Thanks, everyone!

10-08-2011, 02:18 PM	#6
Lord Carnifex Join Date: Oct 2005	Re: Modern military maps Hmm... if anyone is knowledgable and has the time, writing up a National Guard armory might make a decent *Location* article for *Pyramid*. Not just layout, but a roster of equipment and weapons, and how such a place might be used. I could see that being useful for Action, Atomic Horror, and Post-Apocalyptic games. __________________ An ongoing narrative of philosophy, psychology, and semiotics: Et in Arcadia Ego "To an Irishman, a serious matter is a joke, and a joke is a serious matter."

10-08-2011, 02:46 PM	#7
dcarson Join Date: Mar 2008	Re: Modern military maps The Design Guides / Standards (AFDG) has design guides for all kinds of Air Force facilities. From munition storage to snack bars. Also Nike Missile bases at this site.

10-08-2011, 09:00 PM	#10
Anaraxes Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Modern military maps Yes. The SF Armory was bought in 2006 by Kink.com, and used as a studio for production of, uh, content for their web sites.