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Old 04-20-2016, 12:26 AM   #51
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Something that got missed in the 2005 posts was the effects of sex on the employment of supers. Germany, to use one example, did not use women in combat roles while the USSR did. Assuming a similar policy regarding supers, Germany effectively tosses half of its available military grade supers away and the USSR does not.
Before that's an issue you have to consider where little supers come from. I mean when I look at my cast of German supers they're overwhelmingly male anyway, just because men are more likely to be subjected to the things that can produce supers. You don't give your "super soldier serum" to women. You build your combat cyborg from a maimed combat soldier. The secret of the Blue Light cave is passed down father to son. The Thule Society had no female members. The only women at the nuclear weapons research program were secretarial staff. The members of those Himalayan and Antarctic expeditions were all male. As for the few exceptions, well they could just as easily be used as spies and assassins as combat troops. Probably more usefully.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:32 AM   #52
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BUT i take that back. If powers are distributed 1/1000 then the Allies, especially russia and china, are going to have a huge advantage earlier.
The Commonwealth nations including India would be pressured to lend supers early on. If Japan gets bogged down in China then those forces are used in Europe and Africa.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:35 AM   #53
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Before that's an issue you have to consider where little supers come from.
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Yes, but the 2005 posts were presuming an equal opportunity source for supers. In that light, whether your social mores let you make fullest use of your supers is a consideration.
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Old 04-20-2016, 01:44 AM   #54
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Yes, but the 2005 posts were presuming an equal opportunity source for supers. In that light, whether your social mores let you make fullest use of your supers is a consideration.
That leads to the thought, what about the various supers cropping up in any populations that are pushed into camps of one sort or another, Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, mentally challenged, Japanese in America, "quislings" etc.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:23 AM   #55
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That leads to the thought, what about the various supers cropping up in any populations that are pushed into camps of one sort or another, Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, mentally challenged, Japanese in America, "quislings" etc.
Well, a lot would depend on whether the supers took the same general view as the rest of their population or not. A Jewish super might be motivated to liberate his fellows from Auschwitz and similar places if he were a Polish or German Jew. He might put himself in the service of his country to make a point if he were an American Jew. He might make a deal with whoever would advance his agenda for a homeland if he were a Palestinian Jew and otherwise be uninterested in WWII, somewhat like the Scarlet Scarab in regards to Egypt.

Homosexuals and gypsies would have options broadly similar to Jews.

Japanese Americans might follow the lead of the Nisei units and be America's crack troops in the fight against Imperial Japan but they might also turn their powers resisting the internments.

A mentally challenged super would presumably still be mentally challenged absent a power that negated it. He might be a bigger threat to himself or nearby innocents than he was to the enemy. Whether that's inadvertent or not probably doesn't cut any ice with either the public or the authorities.

Quislings were fairly effective as long as the Axis, primarily the Nazis, could provide military backing to them. A quisling who didn't need that backing might last much longer and be more effective. That's a rather scary thought, isn't it?
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Old 04-20-2016, 07:26 AM   #56
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In Marshal Law the Golden Age heroes of WW2 were too busy fighting each other to alter the war and even the ones at home were involved in rackets to get war bonds.

The Boys version of these heroes were over bloated egos trying to prove that they were better than soldiers. The soldiers were annoyed with idiots who gave their positions away and the amusing thing was the heroes bodies could be mushed, crushed, torn but the brain kept going.

"aim for his shield, the one on his chest"...
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:17 AM   #57
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Yes, but the 2005 posts were presuming an equal opportunity source for supers. In that light, whether your social mores let you make fullest use of your supers is a consideration.
I suspect that the Germans would find some application for a large female superhuman population. Perhaps Gestapo partisan suppression squads.
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