11-14-2012, 11:56 AM | #21 | |
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Location: Oregon
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Re: Feint.
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Are you saying that they always AOA in response to a successful Feint? The first thing that's wrong with that is that a Feint shouldn't always (or often) be obvious. But even then, it's not so bad; instead of them defending at a penalty, they now can't defend at all, and you can lay into them with a Telegraphic attack. |
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11-14-2012, 12:01 PM | #22 |
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Oregon
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Re: Feint.
You can, but with -6 to the Feint and the Attack it's generally self defeating, when compared to the Deceptive Attack option. It's more useful for Weapon Masters, who only have a -3 penalty for Rapid Strikes, and can train Dual-Weapon Attack to have no penalty for two attacks. Training in DWA + Feint is a potent combination.
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11-14-2012, 12:03 PM | #23 |
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Re: Feint.
I do not believe Weapon Master is required to train in those two Techniques...it is often done that way and is a strong combo (Weapon Master+DWA+Feint)...but IIRC you can just train DWA+Feint.
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11-14-2012, 12:03 PM | #24 |
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Re: Feint.
Thank You vierasmarius.
By the way, thank all of you. Somebody can explain me what is the difference of "feint" and "Deceptive attack"? |
11-14-2012, 12:05 PM | #25 | |
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Location: Oregon
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Re: Feint.
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"Feint" is a technique, which uses up an attack to perform, gives a variable penalty to the target's defense, and can be improved with training. "Deceptive Attack" is an option that can be applied to any attack, where the attacker accepts a penalty to-hit and gives the defender an automatic penalty to defense. It's discussed in Basic Set, on page 369. Last edited by vierasmarius; 11-14-2012 at 12:09 PM. |
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11-14-2012, 12:06 PM | #26 | ||
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Location: Denmark
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Re: Feint.
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Don't let them take AoA just because the GM knows the PC is feinting. Have to do what they would do if they expect an actual attack. |
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11-14-2012, 12:09 PM | #27 | |
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Location: Denmark
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Re: Feint.
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Deceptive Attack is a penalty you take to your current attack in order to lower his defences immediately. For example, taking a -6 penalty to hit gives the opponent -3 to his defences. It doesn't require any extra actions. It just gives a penalty to hit to lower defences. If you are better than your opponent, a feint will usually lower defences more, but it also takes longer. |
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11-14-2012, 12:17 PM | #28 | |
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Re: Feint.
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There are options that can mitigate this. If you have a better armor or a weapon more suited to the specifical combat situation, you can defeat a much more skilled opponent (and this is realistic). In an open space, for example, a good spearman can defeat a swordmaster. However, the issue is not about feinting. A feint against a more skilled opponent is not a good idea in real combat, so it is not a good idea in GURPS. If you're facing an opponent more skilled than you, then a fight is the wrong way to handle the situation. Moreover, you and your GM should talk about this problem. Why do your opponents always make All-out Attacks? Are they zombies or berserkers? If not, it's likely that your GM is not ruling them very well: he considers them "critters" useful only for combat and forgets that any soldier, if well interpreted, has a life, projects, perhaps wife and sons, and he doesn't want to die. |
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11-14-2012, 12:20 PM | #29 |
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Re: Feint.
Porra! Então "Deceptive attack" é muito melhor do que finta!
Ops... Sorry... ****! So "Deceptive attack" is so much better of feint! Where in basic set is the description of "Deceptive attack"? |
11-14-2012, 12:23 PM | #30 |
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Re: Feint.
No no Ji ji, here every foe don't have a minimal "love to life" and the only purpose of him creation is the destruction of PC... lol
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