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Old 02-04-2014, 12:08 PM   #1
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Default Undomitable: Resistant to Influence Rolls

Indomitable makes you immune to influence rolls for 15 points.

What would a +1/lvl bonus vs. influence rolls be worth?

My gut reaction is 2 points per level, or 1 point per level just be able to ignore (level) points in rxn modifiers ('Unimpressed').

So someone with Will 12 and Undomitable 4 rolls vs. 16 for influence rolls.

Someone with Will 12 and Unimpressed 8 rolls against 12, but up to 8 points of reaction modifiers (appearance, status, reputation whatever) don't apply.
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:14 PM   #2
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A +8 to all Will rolls to resist is worth 7 points; +3 is worth 5 points. This is official.
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Old 02-04-2014, 01:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: Undomitable: Resistant to Influence Rolls

High Status effectively includes resistance to Influence rolls (and good Reaction rolls) because (unlike other Reaction Modifier bonuses) it is not only added to one's own Reaction modifier but also subtracted from the Reaction Modifier of other character attempting or tending to influence one.

Try to Influence an NPC with +4 Reputation or +4 Social Regard, or who is Beautiful; there is no modifier to your Influence roll or to their Reaction roll to you. It's just like Influencing an NPC without those traits. But try to Influence an NPC with Status 4! You get a negative 4 to your Reaction modifier (compared to what you would get to a similar character without Status). He or she gets a -4 to his to her Reaction Roll.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:16 PM   #4
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Default Re: Undomitable: Resistant to Influence Rolls

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A +8 to all Will rolls to resist is worth 7 points; +3 is worth 5 points. This is official.
Nitpick, that should be all Will rolls to resist influence skills from people who don't have sensitive or empathy.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:18 PM   #5
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Nitpick, that should be all Will rolls to resist influence skills from people who don't have sensitive or empathy.
I was going to say...

but this sounds better; The above sounded awfully cheap for generic resistance for Will. Where is this from? I assume one of the Psi books.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:28 PM   #6
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I was going to say...

but this sounds better; The above sounded awfully cheap for generic resistance for Will. Where is this from? I assume one of the Psi books.
GURPS Social Engineering. It follows logically from defining Indomitable = Immune to Influence.

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Old 02-04-2014, 02:41 PM   #7
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GURPS Social Engineering. It follows logically from defining Indomitable = Immune to Influence.

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I think it's more fair to call Indomitable = "Immune to Influence except from those with special insight", and then charge 30 points for true Immunity to Influence.

Sufficiently powered up Precognition might work instead of Empathy. The film "Next" is an example of this where the precog just looks at all the different futures to see which approach works.
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