Israeli Golems

DSumner · 01-23-2006, 04:13 PM

Any of you guys tried using a Golem in a scenario yet?

CombineGeneral · 02-26-2006, 05:40 PM

Yes. It is meaner than the Mk III but not as nasty as a MK V. It is good as a raider but will tend to fall if it goes toe-to-toe with another OGRE or a combined arms force.

Supported by friendly armor and infantry, it is a real terror. 9 missiles and 3 secondaries deal out a lot of damage, especially when this behemoth is protected by friendly 'conventional' forces.

DSumner · 03-07-2006, 09:44 PM

Have you used in any of the "standard" scenarios, one's you've come up with yourself, or a combination of both?

CombineGeneral · 03-13-2006, 08:56 AM

The Golem worked very well in the 'Raid' scenario, also in the 'Fencer Attack' Scenario

DSumner · 03-13-2006, 08:01 PM

How did it fair in each? did it get beaten up, or was it a pretty fair match?

CombineGeneral · 03-15-2006, 07:12 AM

The fencer scenario. a Golem backed by 6 gev's vs. a basic force or 2 Golems vs an Advanced Force is pretty balanced.

A raid scenario with a golem as part of the raider force is pretty interesting. Depending on what reinforcements the defender gets, it can go either way.

If you have access to the Arab-Israeli Wars maps from AH, some other interesting scenarios are possible.

I like playing OGRE minis using a desert hex map from Geo-Hex, I have some scenarios for it that play well with or without Golems

DSumner · 03-15-2006, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CombineGeneral

If you have access to the Arab-Israeli Wars maps from AH, some other interesting scenarios are possible.

You wouldn't happen to know where I could pick one up would you?

CombineGeneral · 03-16-2006, 06:28 PM

Unfortunately the entire PanzerBlitz family of games (PanzerBlitz, PanzerLeader, Arab-Israeli Wars) all went the way of the dinosaur when Avalon Hill was swallowed by the Evil Empire. They were some of the best counter & hex games about armored combat (1939-1973) ever produced. The terrain rules and LOS rules from those games translate well to OGRE too (BONUS!).

You might see them on Ebay from time to time, but a classic AH bookcase game in fine or better condition will oftentimes fetch $100+.

I am a grognard of 30+ years in the the wargaming hobby, so I have every wargame AH printed (and most of their sports and education games too) along with more toy soldiers than it is safe for a middle aged man to own. :-)

ArmoredYak · 01-01-2007, 02:23 AM

I notice a good deal of AH product in 'fine or better' condition 'fetches' about 10 bucks. besides, I have been known to cobble together a 'fine or better' copy of just about anything, from simple patience and common sense.

DSumner · 03-18-2008, 10:03 AM

Well I'm once again hoping that at some point we'll get to see a mini of one of these released, or at least some "official" rules on them for either OM, or the boardgame, especially the "drones" mentioned in GURPS OGRE. I know Henry Cobb took a crack at writing up some drone rules, and I may do the same and post the results here.

01-23-2006, 04:13 PM	#1
DSumner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The North American Combine	Israeli Golems Any of you guys tried using a Golem in a scenario yet?

02-26-2006, 05:40 PM	#2
CombineGeneral Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North American Combine (of course)	Re: Israeli Golems Yes. It is meaner than the Mk III but not as nasty as a MK V. It is good as a raider but will tend to fall if it goes toe-to-toe with another OGRE or a combined arms force. Supported by friendly armor and infantry, it is a real terror. 9 missiles and 3 secondaries deal out a lot of damage, especially when this behemoth is protected by friendly 'conventional' forces.

03-07-2006, 09:44 PM	#3
DSumner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The North American Combine	Re: Israeli Golems Have you used in any of the "standard" scenarios, one's you've come up with yourself, or a combination of both?

03-13-2006, 08:56 AM	#4
CombineGeneral Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North American Combine (of course)	Re: Israeli Golems The Golem worked very well in the 'Raid' scenario, also in the 'Fencer Attack' Scenario

03-13-2006, 08:01 PM	#5
DSumner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The North American Combine	Re: Israeli Golems How did it fair in each? did it get beaten up, or was it a pretty fair match?

03-15-2006, 07:12 AM	#6
CombineGeneral Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North American Combine (of course)	Re: Israeli Golems The fencer scenario. a Golem backed by 6 gev's vs. a basic force or 2 Golems vs an Advanced Force is pretty balanced. A raid scenario with a golem as part of the raider force is pretty interesting. Depending on what reinforcements the defender gets, it can go either way. If you have access to the Arab-Israeli Wars maps from AH, some other interesting scenarios are possible. I like playing OGRE minis using a desert hex map from Geo-Hex, I have some scenarios for it that play well with or without Golems

03-16-2006, 06:28 PM	#8
CombineGeneral Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: North American Combine (of course)	Re: Israeli Golems Unfortunately the entire PanzerBlitz family of games (PanzerBlitz, PanzerLeader, Arab-Israeli Wars) all went the way of the dinosaur when Avalon Hill was swallowed by the Evil Empire. They were some of the best counter & hex games about armored combat (1939-1973) ever produced. The terrain rules and LOS rules from those games translate well to OGRE too (BONUS!). You might see them on Ebay from time to time, but a classic AH bookcase game in fine or better condition will oftentimes fetch $100+. I am a grognard of 30+ years in the the wargaming hobby, so I have every wargame AH printed (and most of their sports and education games too) along with more toy soldiers than it is safe for a middle aged man to own. :-)

01-01-2007, 02:23 AM	#9
ArmoredYak Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nashville	Re: Israeli Golems I notice a good deal of AH product in 'fine or better' condition 'fetches' about 10 bucks. besides, I have been known to cobble together a 'fine or better' copy of just about anything, from simple patience and common sense.

03-18-2008, 10:03 AM	#10
DSumner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The North American Combine	Re: Israeli Golems Well I'm once again hoping that at some point we'll get to see a mini of one of these released, or at least some "official" rules on them for either OM, or the boardgame, especially the "drones" mentioned in GURPS OGRE. I know Henry Cobb took a crack at writing up some drone rules, and I may do the same and post the results here. __________________ "There is no such thing as a dangerous weapon, only dangerous men." "Death is certain, life is not." "No one assails me without punishment"