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Old 11-27-2016, 05:04 PM   #21
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An even subtler change, such as dramatically different stars, or some new stars, or even simply rotating the entire star-field, could also work.
That's in the intriguing field of things that are profoundly wrong but also entirely possible to not notice at all.
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Old 11-27-2016, 05:21 PM   #22
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In my Fantasy setting, a MistDay with clear skies would be deemed a horrible portent.
(MistDay is the first day of the week, and as the name implies there is always mist all day long).

For some options:
-Sheep trample the sheepdogs.
-Shepherd found mangled and eaten on. Sheep have blood on faces, but no visible wounds.
-Ice floating down the river in the middle of Summer, or an unfrozen section of the river during the dead of Winter.
-River found to be flowing the wrong way.
-Many (or worse, all) headstones in the local cemetery found upside down.
-All plantlife in the cemetery dies.
-Morning dew/frost tinged red.
-Morning dew/frost vanishes in sudden flash of flame; plants unaffected.
-Moon follows abnormal path.
-Moon rises in the west.
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Old 11-27-2016, 07:29 PM   #23
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So there are. Those are just rules on using them more than making/transporting them, however (unless I missed something). Maybe we could steal the fire building rules for building a transportable fire bundle. Making the container out of sticks, mud, etc (along with kindling inside) is probably comparable to gathering kindling and building a fire, so we can just use Step 1 as-is (you can skip this if you already have an appropriate container - it can be assumed you can use the fire to readily make kindling if you need any). Optionally, a Failure at this step with MoF 1 or 2 builds a container that counts as improvised equipment. As you must already have an active fire to make the transportable fire bundle, we can skip Step 2, going straight to Step 3. Success there gives you a ~1 lb transportable fire bundle you can use within 24 hours to light a proper fire (allowing you to later skip Steps 1 and 2 - the bundle is tender and flame all in one, just waiting for easy reignition).
Yeah, pretty much. One thing I'll point out here is that the fuel source you're using for the bundle is will determine how long it lasts. Tinder fungus and ungulate (or elephant) dung work best.


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I remember an issue with someone struck by lightning waking up to all the household's shoes being lined up from the front door. It turned out that he'd developed a sleep disorder and was doing it himself.
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Unusual bouts of sleepwalking would probably be spooky especially to those not experienced with such disorders.
Classic sleep paralysis and accompanying hallucinations/delusions are the most likely real reason for night hags, alien abductions, etc. Even without the visions, it's scary enough to make one a bit phobic about going to bed at night.
As someone with night terrors I've experienced sleep paralysis before. It's extremely unpleasant. So yeah, I can see the fear there.
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Old 11-27-2016, 09:25 PM   #24
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Two points:

1. I think he's saying that fires simply won't ignite or go out due to some supernatural force.
Basically, yes: the hearths stay stone cold unless actual fire (or a glowing ember, or a red hot piece of iron) is applied to them. Was tired, and so failed to clarify that.

EDIT: OK, went back and edited the OP. Thanks.
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:09 AM   #25
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I get lost very easily. And I have once when going in a straight line from home to school during daylight hours. I wasn't feeling well, but still, it doesn't take severe brain damage to lose one's way that easily. If a not insignificant minority suddenly became like me, that would start a riot.... that would get lost on the way to the local witch's house.
Meh. Everyone knows that the fae do that to people a lot - you should carry an iron nail in your pocket to protect yourself, or, on finding yourself inappropriately lost, turn all your clothes inside out to break the spell.

As noted, the sudden staling of bread, spoiling of ale, souring of milk or curdling of butter of cheese can all be symptoms of magic at work.

For more spookiness: general unexpected behaviour by animals, becoming unnaturally fearless or fearful ... or aggressive. All of the villages dogs bark at nothing, or hide indoors refusing to go out, rats and mice go abroad openly in daylight and attack those who interfere with them. Livestock in the fields tries to run away and goes wild, battering itself against fences if penned - sheep attack their shepherds. All the local songbirds vanish.

Plants blooming at the wrong time or season, dying off or growing with unnatural vigour (as per The Colour out of Space).

As already noted, deformed births were often seen as omens as well...
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Old 11-28-2016, 09:44 AM   #26
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As already noted, deformed births were often seen as omens as well...
"The calf were born dead, an wi' two heads, milord! T'is witchcraft afoot!"

In winter, deformed babies were often exposed, left to die in the cold. In particularly harsh Scandinavian winters, unwanted infants, even if healthy, might be given this treatment as well, giving rise to stories of vengeful little ghosts called mylings or utburds.
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Old 11-28-2016, 01:57 PM   #27
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"The calf were born dead, an wi' two heads, milord! T'is witchcraft afoot!"

In winter, deformed babies were often exposed, left to die in the cold. In particularly harsh Scandinavian winters, unwanted infants, even if healthy, might be given this treatment as well, giving rise to stories of vengeful little ghosts called mylings or utburds.
That is relatively unusual - most cultures with a tendency towards exposure of unwanted children don't stigmatise it with a class of undead AFAIK, so I would assume that this was something that only took place during extreme privation.

Good undead though - I can imagine one of those cropping up in "that RPG":
"Aagh! Get it off my back."
<successful attack>
"Oops, it's incorporeal. My bad."
"Never mind, I've still got 150hp left, try again" etc.

[/silly] Actually, something like that could be a good cause of trouble - hidden shame is always quite good for horror plots, especially in a small, rural community: during the winter a poor peasant family killed their newborn out of want, pretending that it died of natural causes. Denied burial on sacred ground it now haunts the village - finding out the truth will go a long way towards laying the ghost (if the parents can be persuaded to confess and do penance, a simple grave blessing by the village priest may end the haunting). A PC landlord might be tempted to some more practical action as well. If you could carry off a secret pregnancy in a medieval village (likely to be tricky) then the plot could be even thicker - perhaps involving adultery, incest or some other capital matter...
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:08 PM   #28
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I was thinking, there could be benificial effects that are really creepy, and seem to be indicative of a 'soft corruption'.

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Hearth's in the town light with ease if blood is dripped into them (likely found by accident), if you actually soak the hearth with blood it will light on its own. Human blood works better. Blood of a person you dislike works best.

Labor (human or animal) can be brought on by willing it during the full moon, it is always painless and very rarely results in complications. Babies/animals born via such method are startlingly clever and tend to associate with one another without complaint (A moonborn goose can happily lay with a moonborn cat).

Every single household finds an exquisite set of dressing tools one morning (IE- for slaughtering animals)- they are all midnight black in colour and seem to absorb light. They slide effortlessly into flesh, and any animal butchered with them produces more useable cuts of meat then seems possible.

One morning all of the dogs and cats in the town are found slaughtered. They bear marks from some sort of large (lynx sized) beast with 6 claws on each paw and a triple row fanged maw. There jaws are cracked open, and there hearts are missing (not torn free, missing if anyone takes the time to cut one apart and see what happened). Despite the lack of service animals sheep still get herded in at the end of each day, rodents basically no longer exist, foxes, wolves, rampaging bulls, even a horsethief or two are found quickly dispatched in the same manner as as the dogs and cats soon as they were out of anyone's sight. The villagers can count on seeing a blue-glowing set of six eyes from rafters, lofts, and around corners wherever they go, watching over them, always too far into the dark or too far away to see more than the eyes.
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Old 11-28-2016, 02:19 PM   #29
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A pack of wolves walks into town and roll over before the startled townsfolk. They growl and snarl even as they lay on their backs and expose their necks.
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Old 11-28-2016, 03:59 PM   #30
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"The calf were born dead, an wi' two heads, milord! T'is witchcraft afoot!"

In winter, deformed babies were often exposed, left to die in the cold. In particularly harsh Scandinavian winters, unwanted infants, even if healthy, might be given this treatment as well, giving rise to stories of vengeful little ghosts called mylings or utburds.
Even in cultures that don't officially stigmatize infanticide, parents are fighting evolutionary imperative to kill their children.
I could easily imagine a Tell-Tale Heart mystery. Someone, usually a poor woman but perhaps a man instead or in addition, hear a soft baby cry in the distance. It's driving them crazy as they ask, then demand others to find the source.
Human nature being what it is, eventually those unaffiliated start to hear it too. And bam, you got yourself a full blown mass hysteria.
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