07-31-2018, 10:18 PM | #31 | |
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And another GM might have a different decisions still, and so on and so forth, etc. So, it never "a problem", as long as everyone in your group agrees the way you choose is the *right* way for your group. JK Last edited by Jim Kane; 07-31-2018 at 10:20 PM. Reason: Typo |
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07-31-2018, 10:27 PM | #32 |
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Re: What happens if you have an action that lowers your DX on your turn?
Which is a really good point -- a lot of these interpretations are based on years of consensus building that has long since vanished from our forebrains as a memory.
And that is why I always advocate a few arena battles to "warm up" the crowd (especially if they are newbies) before you go into a full-on campaign -- so your players and you can build a consensus on how these interpretations play out *before* it's "life and death" in the campaign. It'll save you a lot of heartburn down the road! |
07-31-2018, 11:42 PM | #33 | |
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You can add just a pinch of detail to differentiate speed based only on overall adjusted DX or pour in a heaping helping of gritty detail taking into account every single DX adjustment as soon as it affects combat. The original rules as written did distinguish range penalties as NOT affecting speed, so at least we know some DX adjustments were meant in the RAW to only affect accuracy. Other than that, I imagine we will get some sort of clarification in the revised rules, and then some of us will promptly ignore that and do our own thing anyway, hehe. That's the prerogative of every "Iron Chef," "Galloping Gourmet" GM! (Yes, I'm dating myself with those references because I'm referring to the old, original Japanese Iron Chef that I remember watching before the turn of the century, haha.) Bon appetit!
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08-01-2018, 12:32 AM | #34 |
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Re: What happens if you have an action that lowers your DX on your turn?
Yeah, it's not a problem per se to do it one way or the other. There are just trade-offs or matters of taste.
I am very frequently surprised by what people find complex or not, and this is a very rare case where I actually find something complex and some others don't... although I suspect it's partly because they don't think it comes up that much. To me, it seems like a lot of complexity to add for little or no effect that I want. Maybe it also seems more of a big deal to me because I have often run some pretty large battles in TFT, and the effect is multiplied by the number of figures in the combat, especially for the GM. If I'm tracking 10 or 20 or more NPCs in a combat, I'm not put off by the work of playing them, except I'd really rather not have to think about them all having several different points at which they might be able to act depending on exactly what they all choose to do. Yes, you used it right AND I would say that is a really good idea, as it would add a choice and reduce the degree to which there are "magic" DX levels where suddenly accurate archers double in RoF. |
08-01-2018, 01:33 AM | #35 | |
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When I run huge battles (say over 50 character), I simplify a few things. All PC's go first and then all NPC's go sweeping from left to right. And the NPC's usually don't use exotic combat options. This usually works out OK, since in battles this big the bad guys are zombies, or lots of low level guys. Warm regards, Rick. |
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08-01-2018, 02:51 AM | #37 |
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My God, I thought I was the only one who remembered the Galloping Gourmet! I remember being home sick from school for an entire week (the flu, or the mumps, or something else that was hideously contagious) and being reduced to watching that guy's show around 1PM or so because I couldn't sleep in the afternoons. I think I was about 8 years old at the time! ;-) I haven't thought about him in 50 years. Surprisingly, I actually started to enjoy the show -- he was a good entertainer.
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08-01-2018, 06:01 AM | #38 | |
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In the very best presentation of certain rules on situations in which DX is adjusted, we can find 5 elements of information which are clearly presented/answered in the narrative description:
And maybe that is a good thing. Some of my favorite times with my cousin and main TFT friends were spent "litigating" a situation in determining what the rules truly intended, what we felt was a fair and accurate as a simulation of combat, and what we ultimately wanted *our game* to do and *feel* like. JK |
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08-01-2018, 06:46 AM | #39 |
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Re: What happens if you have an action that lowers your DX on your turn?
Thank you for digging up another nugget from the RAW!
What boggles my mind is how much predetermination must take place in order to let every single DX adjustment affect play, and then how often that carefully crafted turn order will be interrupted by situational modifiers. Every single figure must declare their attacks at the start of the turn in order to know where they fit in the turn order, but can every single figure change their mind at any time to gain new speed from situational modifiers? That hurts my brain. The fact that an adjDX=10 enemy who suddenly has the opportunity to attack a prone player character at +4 DX would immediately jump ahead of another player character with adjDX=13 who is trying to save his fallen friend seems like a recipe for complication and frustration. I would not want to preempt the adjDX=13 player character from trying to save his friend by hitting the enemy first. To each their own though, and whatever is fun for a group is what works for them.
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I'm glad I could bring back a blast from the past!
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