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Old 02-05-2019, 01:12 PM   #21
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After having several excellent conversations with new Car Wars player industrialchild, I thought starting this thread might be helpful.

If you are a new Car Wars player . . .

What aspects of the game are difficult for you?

What types of games do like to play most often (arenas, highway duels, mini-scenarios, adventures, multi-session campaigns, etc.)?

What types of play-aids do you need to understand the game better and make it easier to play?
I think the best way to learn is to just do as the rules recommend. Start off with the first basic road scenario, and build from there to familiarize yourself with the rules. It's what we did.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:31 PM   #22
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I think the best way to learn is to just do as the rules recommend. Start off with the first basic road scenario, and build from there to familiarize yourself with the rules. It's what we did.
Agreed. Kind of like Battletech, there are so many layers to Car Wars that if you try to go too deep too fast, it's going to be a super-frustrating experience. Do a basic highway scenario, take a couple premades into an arena [though I tend to prefer something a step up from Killer Kart...a front-mounted gun exclusively means lots of opportunities for a player to become disinterested while they spend turn after turn trying to line up a shot]

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Rainbow Bay has the problem with turn keys big time. I don't even put them out, and instead just use the sticks I've made up. I've been considering another solution though to the tight corner problem: in theory, it should be possible to make some sticks to work with the outside edge of a turning car.

It's also worth noting that the upcoming 6th edition's turn gages work differently than the keys. Based on my understanding, they'll perform in tight spaces like the sticks that Andy and I use. They might be a bit better though - I *think* though that they could be used in a two-step process on the outside of the car to do turns.

(And keep in mind that with the Classic game, it's still possible to make maneuvers without a key too.)
Could I bug you for pictures of your current sticks? Here, e-mail, wherever. The ones I used in the fall are technically outside-edge sticks...they work rather nicely, but because I did 'front end here, then back end here' (instead of back-end here, then front end there), they were a little small. The 15 degree especially proved to be kind of a pain to hold still while repositioning the car, but the nice thing is with a slight modification they'll prove really easy to 'read'.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:36 PM   #23
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I have several photos of MageSmiley's Car Wars Tournaments at Dragonflight and OrcaCon, including photos of the Turning Keys and "Angle Sticks." (Each time I take photos of those events I give my photos to MageSmiley after the tournaments.) I can e-mail them to you. Send me your e-mail address in a private message.

Update: I have two photos of the "Angle Sticks" or "Angle Keys" from Dragonflight 2018 ready for you.
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Old 02-05-2019, 02:15 PM   #24
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TheAmishStig,

I have several photos of MageSmiley's Car Wars Tournaments at Dragonflight and OrcaCon, including photos of the Turning Keys and "Angle Sticks." (Each time I take photos of those events I give my photos to MageSmiley after the tournaments.) I can e-mail them to you. Send me your e-mail address in a private message.

Update: I have two photos of the "Angle Sticks" or "Angle Keys" from Dragonflight 2018 ready for you.
Done and done. Thanks much!
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Old 02-05-2019, 03:24 PM   #25
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Do a basic highway scenario, take a couple premades into an arena [though I tend to prefer something a step up from Killer Kart...a front-mounted gun exclusively means lots of opportunities for a player to become disinterested while they spend turn after turn trying to line up a shot]
This is where having the really rare products like _Autoventures_ comes in handy; a Div. 5 light-chassis-and-suspension Compact with an RL and OJ offers a bit more variety than a _Killer Kart_ (not to mention opportunities for High Comedy when a HC1 car with a D-0 drivers hits an oil slick... :) ).
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:09 PM   #26
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TheAmishStig,

I have several photos of MageSmiley's Car Wars Tournaments at Dragonflight and OrcaCon, including photos of the Turning Keys and "Angle Sticks." (Each time I take photos of those events I give my photos to MageSmiley after the tournaments.) I can e-mail them to you. Send me your e-mail address in a private message.

Update: I have two photos of the "Angle Sticks" or "Angle Keys" from Dragonflight 2018 ready for you.
Pictures received. Thanks much!

Those are very similar to what I ended up making a couple years ago...the big difference is that on those the inner and outer edges aren't parallel, and because mine are made for 2X they're a good deal smaller. I don't use the inside often, but it's nice to have for those situations where the stick will only fit after the forward part of movement (make a move straight ahead, rest the stick against the rear edge, then spin the car until the side edge makes contact)...or for fishtails, starting with the nose in contact instead.

I'd also sketched out but not had time to cut a 'Spinout' guide, shaped like an F if the lower bar was facing the wrong way.
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