11-15-2019, 12:35 PM | #51 |
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Re: Some TL8-9 weapon ideas & stats
True, but the actual ratio we can manage is something like a million to one containment mass to material. It's not clear that dramatically superior explosives are impossible, but there isn't firm enough evidence for any of them to support calling them TL 9.
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11-15-2019, 01:06 PM | #52 | |
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GURPS seems to assume pretty serious improvements by TL9 in many areas. Of course, with us being (presumably) fairly late in TL8 at this point and HEDM still having such a poor ratio, getting to the 6.25:1 (total mass:HEDM) ratio required for REF 4 by the time TL9 is mature does seem a bit unlikely.
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11-15-2019, 04:05 PM | #53 |
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An awful lot of the current-ish tech path was originally set in the early 90s and somewhat updated for Transhuman Space, and looked more plausible when it was first written.
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11-15-2019, 04:27 PM | #54 |
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Re: Some TL8-9 weapon ideas & stats
Well, late TL8 makes certain assumptions. I do not think we will average TL9 until 2050.
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11-15-2019, 05:54 PM | #55 | |
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If mid-TL9 is 30 years away, I'd say we're in late TL8 (this would be under the Fast progression, where TL9 starts in 2025). If TL9 is going to start in roughly 30 years, we're in the middle of TL8 (this would be under the Retarded progression, where TL9 starts in 2050). Personally, I suspect we're somewhere between Normal and Slow, but TL9 is going to look quite different from what UT predicted (which is fair, it was written quite some time ago). With TL9 starting in 2030 or 2040, I'd say we're roughly in late TL8, although perhaps mid-late would be a better descriptor (we're roughly 4/5ths to 2/3rds of the way through by those progressions).
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There might be other possibilities, but I'm too lazy to go diving into my capacious and many-times-resurrected bookmarks to find them all. I do know that the US military has a whole branch dedicatd to disruptive energetics which tries to find concepts that could fill the gap between conventional and nuclear (stuff that would be like metallic hydrogen, the aformentioned SBERs, isomer bombs, and so on.) On the other hand.. it a military powerpoint. Take with a huge grain of salt. |
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11-16-2019, 02:51 AM | #57 | |
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As for incendiary effect, as seen here: http://tetrazolelover.at.ua/WpnryInT...00273-main.pdf Fuel tank contains was ignited with cover parts of tank departed (blown away?). Notice how they mention overpressure effects affecting damage. So that's why I tend to compare it's follow-up damage effects as comparable to small explosive. Hm. Maybe it's more "burn ex" instead of "cr ex"?? Last edited by Nightrider_88; 11-16-2019 at 07:28 AM. |
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11-16-2019, 05:23 AM | #58 |
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Hm. I suppose I said something rong as my rely is on premoderation. )
Ok, now it here..)) Last edited by Nightrider_88; 11-16-2019 at 07:27 AM. |
11-16-2019, 08:53 AM | #59 |
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