12-28-2011, 11:10 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Mid-Combat Discards?
So, we had a bit of an argument last night with a game of Star Munchkin regarding when cards get discarded during a combat (if they can). As well, I searched but I couldn't find anything, even if it might have been right in front of my face. ^^;
This is the scenario that happened:
Because Paradox in a Box' action is now done (unlike other 1 time use modifiers), was it to be considered discarded after the monster changed hands, or is it discarded at the end of combat, making the above move illegal? |
12-28-2011, 01:08 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
Discards are not done until the combat is finished.
I do not believe the Paradox in a Box would be discarded until the combat is done. |
12-28-2011, 01:23 PM | #3 | |
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
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Cards played on a combat are discarded after the combat, not during. Even though it is the same monster, there are multiple combats in the scenario you described. I'm pretty sure the most recent Paradox in a Box takes precedence and play should continue after the turn of the last person to fight the monster ends. The monster didn't change hands. The first player's turn ended altogether because of Paradox in a Box, as it says on the card. Then the second player's turn ended when the first player played Plot Device. It is then, once more and with the same monster, the first player's turn in this case. I'm not sure, but I don't think monster enhancers are transferable along with the monster in the case of Paradox in a Box or if the shift is so immediate there was never any time to enhance it to begin with. On a side note, there are cards that can be discarded during combat, and those are cards like Races, Classes, Powers, Hirelings, etc. as well as cards that power combat abilities, like the Thief's Backstab ability. |
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12-28-2011, 02:28 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
But the first player's turn does not actually "end" when Paradox in a Box is played. The turn is transferred to the other player, as if that player were the one who kicked the door open. The question is whether the Paradox in a Box card is supposed to be discarded. If it is like any other "modifier", it should stay on the table until the combat is finished.
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12-28-2011, 03:13 PM | #5 | |
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
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I'm interested in the official resolution, too. I apologize if I'm completely wrong and confusing anyone reading this. |
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12-28-2011, 04:45 PM | #6 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
Read this topic:
http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread...hlight=paradox It indicates that the entire turn is moved. |
12-28-2011, 06:50 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
The card's effect is applied and discarded, easy peasy.
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12-29-2011, 05:38 AM | #8 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
So back to the original question. If Paradox in a Box is immediately discarded, it appears it is perfectly valid for the first player to use Plot Device to claim it from the discards and move the turn back to himself.
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12-29-2011, 06:17 AM | #9 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: Mid-Combat Discards?
No, because that requires an action to occur between the kicking down of the door and the playing of the card. If you have to play a card to get a different card to play it, then an event that "just happened" before you played the first card no longer "just happened."
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