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Old 10-24-2019, 01:41 PM   #11
AlexanderHowl
 
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Default Re: Powered Knights/Monks [Fantasy/Powers/Supers]

If technology cannot create the item though, gadgets are valid. In the Star Wars example, each light sabre was created by hand, as an individual exercise of passion, or inherited/stolen from a Jedi/Sith, so it is very much a gadget rather than gear. In effect, regardless of the technobabble, the light sabre were expressions of abilities rather than products of technology.
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Old 10-24-2019, 01:55 PM   #12
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If technology cannot create the item though, gadgets are valid. In the Star Wars example, each light sabre was created by hand, as an individual exercise of passion, or inherited/stolen from a Jedi/Sith, so it is very much a gadget rather than gear. In effect, regardless of the technobabble, the light sabre were expressions of abilities rather than products of technology.
The main issue in this case is the price. 80 points is an absolutely ridiculous amount for something that's a carbon copy of what you can get for 10 points of SG at TL3, cheaper at higher TLs.
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Old 10-24-2019, 06:44 PM   #13
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Only if you allow that type of technology. Light sabres lose their mystique is every punk carries one when going out for the night. If it is supposed to have any mystique, it should cost points rather than money.

Anyway, I think that a gadget like that should probably serve two purposes. For example, if the Force functions like RPM, the light sabre should function as a focus and, as an alternative ability, a weapon. A non-Jedi only benefits from the weapon, but the Jedi benefits from the focus and weapon.
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Old 10-24-2019, 08:11 PM   #14
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One thing I really hate is using gadgets to replicate equipment that is available. There is no reason to create a gadget power for a force sword when they exist in the setting and can be bought with cash. If the technology to create force swords is a closely guarded secret then that is just a unusual background or high TL advantage.

Equipment is not a power, despite the old technology and magic quote.
WORD. This is exactly why I created "Metatronic Generators" from Pyramid #3/46: Weird Science to bridge this gap. You create the gadget you want with powers and then use the rules system to give it a cash cost as gear.
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