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Old 03-05-2013, 05:13 PM   #41
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Rob, do Canadian lawyers have to have specific credentials for the province they operate in? That's the way it works in the U.S. -- a lawyer who's certified to practice in Tennessee doesn't automatically have the ability to represent someone in a Colorado courtroom. There's enough differences in state law that that would be a separate specialization by itself.
Ugh, can you imagine having to get skills for every state, let alone country? Many states have reciprocity, so a lawyer licensed in Idaho can get a license in Montana without having to take another bar exam. Some states, notably California, do not. Nonetheless, I don't think these are separate skills. Familiarities for sure!
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:29 AM   #42
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Rob, do Canadian lawyers have to have specific credentials for the province they operate in? That's the way it works in the U.S. -- a lawyer who's certified to practice in Tennessee doesn't automatically have the ability to represent someone in a Colorado courtroom. There's enough differences in state law that that would be a separate specialization by itself.
Lawyers have to be accepted by the law society / bar association of the province they practice in, yes. This is usually easy once you've got the first one... but, while most provinces have civil legal codes based on British common law, Québec has a civil law code based on French common law. (Criminal law is much the same across the country.)

The suggestion that apoc527 made about familiarities would apply in Canada, except that Québec civil law would be a specialization rather than a familiarity.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:55 AM   #43
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I don't think ever having seen RAW being regarded as so low as indicated in this thread - basically, out of all forumites who have posted to the thread in question, not even one tried to extend or defend the specialisations as presented in Basic Set (though I must credit Figleaf for rather neutrally reversing the direction of the question and pointing it in my direction, though, of course, said action did not resolve the issue thus far).
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Old 07-29-2015, 02:01 AM   #44
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Rob, do Canadian lawyers have to have specific credentials for the province they operate in? That's the way it works in the U.S. -- a lawyer who's certified to practice in Tennessee doesn't automatically have the ability to represent someone in a Colorado courtroom. There's enough differences in state law that that would be a separate specialization by itself.

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Lawyers have to be accepted by the law society / bar association of the province they practice in, yes. This is usually easy once you've got the first one... but, while most provinces have civil legal codes based on British common law, Québec has a civil law code based on French common law. (Criminal law is much the same across the country.)

The suggestion that apoc527 made about familiarities would apply in Canada, except that Québec civil law would be a specialization rather than a familiarity.
Just a further note on Rob's points. There are three different law degrees in Canada: Bachelor of Law [Criminal Law], Bachelor of Laws [English or common civil law] and Bachelor of Civil Law [French Canadian (specifically Quebec) civil law]. Someone with a Bachelor of Law [Criminal Law] could be called to the bar in any province or territory in Canada providing he met the residency requirements of the local Law Society. He might have to pass a formal exam, but he wouldn't need to make a special study for it as there is no variance in criminal law, i.e. it's all federal law and federal cases. A Bachelor of Laws [Civil Law] can generally practice in any province except Quebec but will need to make a special study of the relevant province's law. They'll be broadly similar but not necessarily identical. A Bachelor of Civil Law is restricted to practising as a member of Quebec's Law Society as that legal code is only valid in Quebec.

All that said, from roughly 1970 on, most Canadian Law Schools offered an integrated Civil Law degree. You did the normal five-year (four in Ontario until grade thirteen was abolished) program for a Bachelor of Laws or Bachelor of Civil Law degree and then completed an additional year of study to be granted the other degree, i.e. Bachelor of Civil Law if you had the Bachelor of Law or Bachelor of Civil Law if you had the Bachelor of Law degree, which allowed you to be called to the bar anywhere in Canada.
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