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10-20-2008, 12:19 AM | #1 |
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
I love the simpler, faster rules of Car Wars Fifth Edition, but its one weakness is its lack of vehicle design rules. I wanted my friends to be able to make their own cars for autoduels, so I reverse engineered the cars from all the 5e books to figure out the cost/weight/space of all the various components. I printed up my 5e vehicle design instructions and made copies for my friends. I thought I'd post them here in case anyone out there might find them useful.
BODY SIZE Subcompact - $600, 1000 lbs., max weight 2800 lbs., max space 7, HC 2. Compact - $800, 1300 lbs., max weight 4500 lbs., max space 10, HC 1. Mid-size - $1200, 1600 lbs., max weight 5800 lbs., max space 13, HC 1. Luxury - $1600, 1800 lbs., max weight 6600 lbs., max space 19, HC 1. POWER PLANT Small - $500, 200 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 2000 power. Medium - $1000, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 4 DP, 4000 power. Large - $1500, 500 lbs., 3 spaces, 6 DP, 6000 power. Super - $2000, 650 lbs., 4 spaces, 8 DP, 8000 power. Sport - $2500, 850 lbs., 5 spaces, 10 DP, 10000 power. Super Sport - $3000, 1000 lbs., 6 spaces, 12 DP, 12000 power. Platinum Catalysts - $500, 25 lbs., +1000 power. Superconductors - $1000, +1500 power. A car with power equal to or greater than its weight will accelerate 10 mph and have a top speed of 90 mph. A car with power equal to or greater than twice its weight will accelerate 20 mph and have a top speed of 100 mph. SUSPENSION Improved Suspension - $500, +1 to HC. Heavy Suspension - $1000, +2 to HC. TIRES Standard (4) - $200, 120 lbs., 4 DP. Heavy-Duty (4) - $700, 170 lbs., 8 DP. Solid (4) - $1700, 270 lbs., 12 DP. Standard HP (4) - $700, 120 lbs., 2 DP, +1 to HC. Heavy-Duty HP (4) - $1200, 170 lbs., 6 DP, +1 to HC. Solid HP (4) - $2200, 270 lbs., 10 DP, +1 to HC. HUMAN ELEMENT Driver or Gunner - 150 lbs., 2 spaces. WEAPONS Anti-Tank Gun - To hit 7, 3d damage, $2500, 700 lbs., 3 spaces, 5 DP, 10 shots. Blast Cannon - To hit 8, 4d damage, $5500, 600 lbs., 4 spaces, 5 DP, 10 shots. Flamethrower - To hit 9, 1d damage, $750, 500 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots. Flaming Oil Jet - $1175, 130 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 25 shots. Heavy Laser - To hit 10, 3d damage, $8000, 550 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, unlimited shots. Heavy Rocket - To hit 6, 3d damage, $200, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot. HD Flamethrower - To hit 9, 2d damage, $1750, 750 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, 10 shots. Incendiary Heavy Rocket - To hit 6, 3d damage, $400, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot. Light Laser - To hit 10, 1d damage, $3000, 200 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, unlimited shots. Machine Gun - To hit 8, 1d damage, $1500, 200 lbs., 1 space, 3 DP, 20 shots. (w/incendiary ammo +$250) Medium Laser - To hit 10, 2d damage, $5500, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, unlimited shots. Micro-Missile Launcher - To hit 7, 1d damage, $950, 125 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 10 shots. Minedropper - $1000, 200 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots. (w/frag mines +10 shots) Oil Jet - $500, 75 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 25 shots. Paint Sprayer - $650, 75 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 25 shots. Recoilless Rifle - To hit 8, 2d damage, $1850, 300 lbs., 2 spaces, 4 DP, 10 shots. Rocket Launcher - To hit 7, 2d damage, $1350, 250 lbs., 2 spaces, 2 DP, 10 shots. Smokescreen - $350, 75 lbs., 1 space, 4 DP, 20 shots. Sonic Cannon - To hit 9, 3d damage, $6000, 750 lbs., 3 spaces, 3 DP, unlimited shots. Spike Dropper - $300, 75 lbs., 1 space, 4 DP, 10 shots. (w/explosive spikes +$300) Surge Rocket - To hit 6, no damage, $800, 100 lbs., 1 space, 2 DP, 1 shot. Variable-Fire Rocket Pod - To hit 6, 2d damage, $3050, 425 lbs., 3 spaces, 5 DP, 15 shots. Vulcan Machine Gun - To hit 9, 2d damage, $2700, 400 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 20 shots. (w/incendiary ammo +$350) The total spaces of weapons mounted on any one side must be less than half the car's maximum spaces. EXTRAS Body Blades - $100, 25 lbs. Discharger - Cost varies, 5 lbs. (Flaming Oil $100, Oil $50, Paint $50, Smoke $50) Extra Magazine - Cost and weight varies by weapon, 1 space, +1 DP. (Anti-Tank Gun $550, 115 lbs., Blast Cannon $1050, 115 lbs., Flamethrower $300, 65 lbs., Flaming Oil Jet $925, 65 lbs., HD Flamethrower $550, 115 lbs., Machine Gun $550, 65 lbs., Machine Gun w/incendiary ammo $800, 65 lbs., Micro-Missile Launcher $250, 40 lbs., Minedropper $550, 65 lbs., Oil Jet $300, 65 lbs., Paint Sprayer $300, 65 lbs., Recoilless Rifle $400, 65 lbs., Rocket Launcher $400, 65 lbs., Smokescreen $150, 65 lbs., Spike Dropper $250, 65 lbs., Spike Dropper w/explosive spikes $550, 65 lbs., Variable-Fire Rocket Pod $1100, 240 lbs., Vulcan Machine Gun $750, 115 lbs., Vulcan Machine Gun w/incendiary ammo $1100, 115 lbs.) Fire Extinguisher - $300, 150 lbs., 1 space. Heavy Ramplate - $1000, 500 lbs. Heavy Structural Reinforcement - $1000, 500 lbs., +10 to confetti number. Light Ramplate - $500, 300 lbs. Link - $50. Low Profile - $250, 1 space. Spoiler - $500, 100 lbs, +1 to HC. Structural Reinforcement - $500, 250 lbs., +5 to confetti number. Targeting Computer - $1000. Turret (1-space) - $1000, 150 lbs. Turret (2-space) - $1500, 200 lbs. Ultra-Low Profile - $500, 2 spaces, +10 mph to top speed. Wheel Armor - $1000, 100 lbs., 5 DP (for all four wheels). (fire-resistant $1500, fireproof $2000) ARMOR Subcompact - $10, 5 lbs. (fire-resistant $15, fireproof $20) Compact - $12, 6 lbs. (fire-resistant $18, fireproof $24) Mid-size - $15, 8 lbs. (fire-resistant $22.5, fireproof $30) Luxury - $20, 10 lbs. (fire-resistant $30, fireproof $40) CONFETTI NUMBER A car's confetti number is equal to its total weight divided by 75. Last edited by chaoticsyst3m; 10-22-2008 at 03:50 AM. |
10-20-2008, 08:35 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
Well done man!
That is frikkin gold! was going to do the same thing but now I dont have to cus you have done all the hard work for me. All I have to do now is add some chassis and crossbow items to the list. |
10-20-2008, 11:52 PM | #3 |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Springfield, IL
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
I find it interesting how many of the same numbers are similar to those in the unpublished 5e VDS rules that were playtested several years ago...
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10-21-2008, 07:12 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
if it works it works
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10-22-2008, 03:47 AM | #5 |
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Saint Paul, MN
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
Here are a few things from the previous edition that are useful and easily added to the 5e rules:
Sedan - $1400, 1700 lbs., max weight 6200 lbs., max space 16, HC 1. Sedan Armor - $18, 9 lbs. (fire-resistant $27, fireproof $36) Autocannon - To hit 9, 3d damage, $7,250, 600 lbs., 3 spaces, 4 DP, 10 shots. Gauss Gun - To hit 10, 3d damage, $10,500, 400 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 10 shots. Ice Dropper - $1250, 100 lbs., 2 spaces, 3 DP, 25 shots. You'll have to use an oil counter to represent ice. Rules for driving on ice are already included in the 5e rules. Junk Dropper - $50, 125 lbs., 1 space, 4 DP, 10 shots. Drops a standard 5e debris counter. Light Flamethrower - To hit 9, 1d-2 damage, $500, 280 lbs., 1 space, 1 DP, 10 shots. Bumper Trigger - $50. Extra Magazine - 1 space, +1 DP. (Autocannon $800, 115 lbs. Gauss Gun $550, 115 lbs. Ice Dropper $550, 65 lbs., Junk Dropper $50, 115 lbs. Light Flamethrower $200, 45 lbs.) Hi-Res Targeting Computer - $4000. Ice Discharger - $75, 5 lbs. Magazine Switch - $250. No-Paint Windshield - $1000. Smart Link - $500. Last edited by chaoticsyst3m; 12-21-2009 at 01:11 AM. |
10-23-2008, 02:36 AM | #6 |
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
So, pretty-much all they did was eliminate chassis upgrades, make the power
plants slightly less ridiculously heavy and bulky, and fiddle with the weights of a few items....
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12-08-2009, 07:21 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Re: Car Wars 5e Vehicle Design
Chaotic, thanks for having taken the time to work this out and then to share it. I haven't gotten around to playing CW5 yet, but I have a hunch that's gonna change.
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