10-18-2019, 02:25 PM | #21 | ||
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Re: Pole Weapons: Attack / Defense Question
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I have seen GMs rule either way, either that an unengaged figure can attempt HTH twice - once during Movement, and then again as an Action; or that they can't, because initiating HTH during Movement counts as an Action (q.v. option B) and so the figure has already used their action for the turn during the Movment Phase and so gets no second action during the Action phase, just as if they had succeeded at initiating HTH, or moved over 1/2 MA. We ended up deciding that the second interpretation (that attempting HTH during movement uses their one action for the turn) was best. Disengaged figures who can make it to the target's hex via their Rear do it during Movement. Others do it during Action. |
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10-18-2019, 03:36 PM | #22 |
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10-18-2019, 06:14 PM | #23 |
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Re: Pole Weapons: Attack / Defense Question
Good catch there on the rule about NOT being able to defend Xane!
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10-18-2019, 08:36 PM | #24 | |
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Re: Pole Weapons: Attack / Defense Question
Except it's a misunderstanding.
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10-19-2019, 07:50 AM | #25 | |
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10-19-2019, 11:31 AM | #26 |
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Re: Pole Weapons: Attack / Defense Question
All, ITL clearly states in the reference booklet:
“The options available to a figure depend on whether it is engaged, disengaged or in HTH combat at the moment its turn to MOVE comes” If we follow this process to the letter, than a DISENGAGED figure cannot move and DEFEND. |
10-19-2019, 01:58 PM | #27 | |
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10-19-2019, 02:31 PM | #28 |
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Re: Pole Weapons: Attack / Defense Question
Yep; I saw that rule in ITL. However, I still don’t see DEFEND being a listed option for figures that are DISENGAGED. Defend is only an option if you are ENGAGED at the start of your movement phase. Maybe at this point Steve Jackson or Phil Reed could add some input, in an effort to clarify this important rule for ITL...
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10-19-2019, 04:43 PM | #29 | ||
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I know that interpretation seems a stretch, but it makes the most sense based on what I have gathered here. Just chalk it up to one single but important oversight in writing the rules. As some have voiced, it may have been less confusing to have written separate rules for the movement phase and the action phase without regard to options that span both. Although, I can sympathize with the temptation to have done it with the options. |
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10-19-2019, 10:52 PM | #30 | |
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"CHANGING OPTIONSThe condensed version of the options rules in the latest ITL fail to list these specific examples, but the intent is clearly the same. Although any figure may be disengaged at the start of its movement turn, it may become an engaged figure by the end of everyone's movement. What SJ calls "changing conditions". If the figure becomes engaged before its turn to act, it must choose its action from the options for engaged figures, one of which happens to be Defend.
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