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Re: Restoring Edmund Mortimer/Planning a Coup
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For example, Elizabeth I of England, and Anne and Victoria of the United Kingdom were all monarchs when only men could be ordained in the Church of England.
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02-27-2018, 06:07 AM | #12 | ||
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Re: Restoring Edmund Mortimer/Planning a Coup
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02-27-2018, 06:17 AM | #13 | |
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Also, if it is just him, you don't necessarily have to *kill* him to take him out of the decision loop. If mind controlling him is actually an option, you might be able to drive him mad or inflict a disabling stroke instead.
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02-28-2018, 12:24 AM | #14 |
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Re: Restoring Edmund Mortimer/Planning a Coup
The OP wrote that the characters are at least appearing as emmisaries of a foreign government - couldn't they just ask the current king to help out? Why is he so unwilling to do so? If he's afraid that using half his army to fight someone else would weaken his kingdom overmuch, wouldn't that still be the case for the new king?
Does the kingdom the PCs are working for know they're doing this? If so, aren't they worried that the PCs will turn around and use their new friendly army to attack the place they're supposedly working for? Even if not, might they not be concerned that a group of agents who can go cause regime change in a foreign land might someday decide to do so at home if the price was right? |
02-28-2018, 12:40 PM | #15 |
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Re: Restoring Edmund Mortimer/Planning a Coup
They could ask the current king to help out, and that's explicitly been one of the possible approaches since the beginning. The problem is that the current king is not sympathetic to the PCs' interests, and the former heir presumptive is sympathetic to them. So while the heir presumptive might say "sure, borrow half my army and I'll raise local taxes to support the expeditionary force", the current king is going to say "you can borrow a quarter of my army and you have to pay them at mercenary rates" if he agrees at all.
The PCs are the rulers of their home country, so they're not particularly worried about overthrowing themselves.
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03-01-2018, 05:24 AM | #16 | |
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03-01-2018, 02:55 PM | #17 |
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I'm not trying to evaluate the feasibility of the options. That's for the players.
I'm just trying to be a prepared GM, by having at least an outline of a plan for when they say they're going to kill the king or mind control him or whatever.
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03-01-2018, 05:44 PM | #18 | |
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If my players announced a plan like this in one session, by the time they actually got to the next one it would probably have morphed into a plan to get help from another kingdom entirely, or skip over the king and offer bribes to his military commanders, if not something totally off the wall like infect their own army with lycanthropy or forgetting about a clash of armies and sneaking into the enemy's country to paint insulting murals on all his castles, which will surely inspire a revolution.
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03-01-2018, 06:03 PM | #19 | |
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The way to get someone top do something is to show them why they want to do it. A King who is willing to risk half, or even a quarter, of his army on a mission that isn't vital to national interests is a fool. A King who ISN'T willing to send his army to handle a problem that IS vital to his nation's interests is also a fool. |
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