02-06-2011, 06:32 PM | #1 |
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[3e] Flintlock Design Questions
OK, as the GM Who Over-Prepares Everything I am working on expanding the types of flintlocks available from HT, using the gun design rules in Vehicles. I started with pistols, so that I could compare to the entries in HT. A couple of discrepancies I have run into:
The Max damage range is about twice from my designed guns as for the ones in HT. In fact, the Vehicles calc does not work for the HT guns. Why? The cost of the pistols is also very different. . . From a more general standpoint, are snub-nosed pistols historically available? Lastly, I was planning on designing carbines as short-barreled, normal powered, rifled stock grip weapons, and blunderbusses as short-barreled, low-powered, smoothbore stock grip weapons (since the only HT blunderbuss is listed as a shotgun). Does this seem legitimate?
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02-06-2011, 06:36 PM | #2 |
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Re: [3e] Flintlock Design Questions
You will likely get bad numbers for any black powder weapon rated as normal power with the possible exception of cannons. Use low power.
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02-06-2011, 07:11 PM | #3 | ||||
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Re: [3e] Flintlock Design Questions
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Either HT authors had bad info on the maximum range of black-powder weapons or VE2 was overly optimistic. Quote:
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02-07-2011, 02:12 PM | #4 | |
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But, maybe carbines could be pistol-length barrels with rifling and a stock?? Or should they go up one size too?
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02-07-2011, 02:53 PM | #5 | ||
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The blunderbuss barrel is quite short relative to it's bore. See the sidebar on p.VE99. Quote:
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02-07-2011, 08:53 PM | #6 |
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Re: [3e] Flintlock Design Questions
How's this for design nomenclature?:
Pistolet: Extremely short barrel, pistol grip, smoothbore, 10-19mm caliber Pistol: Very short barrel, pistol grip, smoothbore, 10-19mm caliber Blunderbuss: Very short barrel, stock grip, smoothbore, 25-63mm caliber Carbine: Short barrel, stock grip, rifled, 12-22mm caliber Musketoon: Short barrel, stock grip, smoothbore, 25-63mm caliber Musket: Medium barrel, stock grip, smoothbore, 12-22mm caliber All are low power. From what I can tell, Long barrels are for TL6+ rifles. Longer-barrels muskets are "medium" (p. VE102). Also, does anyone know who (and when) used "Bore" to name guns sizes. . .like 8-bore rather than .835 or 21mm.
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02-08-2011, 07:56 AM | #7 | |
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There's a decent bore to gauge conversion table on wikipedia that might be of use to you as well. Wiki also states that the use of "bore" for describing projectile size was English in origin. I can't narrow down the time frame further as I'm at work and they kind of frown on me looking up BP weapons on their dime... |
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02-09-2011, 05:45 PM | #8 | |
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Blunderbusses actually have a short barrel by the caliber system on p. VE99. Damage for the VE design blunderbuss is much lower than in HT. . .3d vs. 5d. I think the prices for the pistols I mentioned in the OP are high because they are usually Fine Quality in HT. Prices for other guns lined up pretty well. Thanks for the help; the low-power tip was especially critical.
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