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Old 04-30-2011, 04:22 PM   #21
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I could be mistaken, but I believe he's saying that it will affect all of your descendants, all of your ancestors, but not your ancestor's other descendants (for instance, it would affect my grandmother, but not my cousin).
Which constitutes a limit on the effect, doesn't it?
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:22 PM   #22
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I could be mistaken, but I believe he's saying that it will affect all of your descendants, all of your ancestors, but not your ancestor's other descendants (for instance, it would affect my grandmother, but not my cousin).
That's exactly what i'm saying 8) Not would it Affact your In-laws becuse of affecting your child


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Which constitutes a limit on the effect, doesn't it?
Yep a limit in line with the concept.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:24 PM   #23
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In the Dresden Files, the spell explicitly did go down and then back up, and it did wind up killing everyone with the targeted blood. I'm not sure what would have happened if it had been used on a human, though. It might have killed off the entire planet, or it might have taken out only a few generations of family.

I think it might have been limited to a chain-like effect, where missing links meant the effect didn't hit others up the line. Not sure, though. Anyone got the passage where that's explained?
I think the effect on the Red Court was more extensive then the original intended effect. It doesn't make sense that the original effect was supposed to wipe out humanity or all life on earth or whatever.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:28 PM   #24
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I think the effect on the Red Court was more extensive then the original intended effect. It doesn't make sense that the original effect was supposed to wipe out humanity or all life on earth or whatever.
Yeah, it was definitely more extensive than intended, but Harry figured out how it could be made much more extensive and backfire on the Red Court badly. I think this had a lot to do with the fact that Susan was really close down the family line from the Red Court King (was he her sire?). I think it may have been that the effect could skip generations while going down, but not while going up, and would go to cousins/etc. I can't remember where that exact passage was, though.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:30 PM   #25
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If it goes down and then back up, in a world with descent from a common ancestor, it will kill everybody.
Only if it can go through dead ancestors. If it is not transmissible to or by the dead it will get a family, but not all living things.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:31 PM   #26
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Only if it can go through dead ancestors. If it is not transmissible to or by the dead it will get a family, but not all living things.
Yes, I clarified that later. Clearly that's a pretty simple limit on the effect.
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Yes, I clarified that later. Clearly that's a pretty simple limit on the effect.
Sorry, I shot my mouth off without reading the thread thoroughly.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:37 PM   #28
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Sorry, I shot my mouth off without reading the thread thoroughly.
It's okay, at some point I wasn't even sure what I was talking about anymore either. :)
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:38 PM   #29
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Yes, I clarified that later. Clearly that's a pretty simple limit on the effect.
I never disgreed with the fact the limits, I was added the limits Ancestor not just dependents. ( went back to your post to double chek we weren't at cross purposes) I was Added to the first part, and you though i was disgreeing with the latter part of your post.

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Old 04-30-2011, 04:41 PM   #30
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(was he her sire?)
No Bianca was, which means the final effect did skip dead links.
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I can't remember where that exact passage was, though.
Yeah, I've got the book right here and I'm thumbing through it, but without rereading it or searching an electronic copy, it's a needle and a haystack problem.
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