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Old 02-07-2019, 09:50 AM   #1
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Default Parrying with a Flail

A Morningstar weapon has Parry U0 and Note [6] as per Basic p. 272.

So attempts to parry it are at -4/-2.

However, parrying with the Morningstar or other flail weapons is possible without any penalty (when the unbalancedness does not forbid it due to a previous attack).

Is this intended?

It appears to me that parrying a sword with this should be as least as difficult as parrying with a knife, which is at -1.

House-ruling this is trivial, I was just wondering what the intention behind U0 was.

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Old 02-07-2019, 10:01 AM   #2
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The handle on most flails is around 20-25 inches long or more, as long as a shortsword or baton, and considerably longer than most knives.
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Old 02-07-2019, 11:51 AM   #3
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Default Re: Parrying with a Flail

Yes, you parry with the haft, which is a solid chunk of metal-bound or -studded wood no different from the haft of an axe or mace. Kusaris have Parry -2U instead of 0U because they lack this haft.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:40 AM   #4
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Thank you for the quick replies and the clarification!
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Old 02-09-2019, 02:27 AM   #5
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Yes, you parry with the haft, which is a solid chunk of metal-bound or -studded wood no different from the haft of an axe or mace. Kusaris have Parry -2U instead of 0U because they lack this haft.
Even while parrying with the haft, the orher parts should be annoying because they have a weight and, contrary to a mace or axe, move around when you move the weapon.
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:07 AM   #6
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Default Re: Parrying with a Flail

You have a worse parry at the same number of points in the skill because it's a Hard skill instead of average. Not sure if it needs more penalty than that.
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:41 AM   #7
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Yes, you're right. The difference of difficulty is like a -1 which corresponds to the heavyness and awkwardness of the weapon.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:12 AM   #8
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Yes, you're right. The difference of difficulty is like a -1 which corresponds to the heavyness and awkwardness of the weapon.
The wobbly weight distribution is why Flail, Kusari, and Two-Handed Flail are Hard and not Average. The lack of a haft is why Kusari also has Parry -2U.
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