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Old 06-17-2014, 01:04 AM   #1
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Are Bow Fencers meant to get the benefits of Fencing Parries with a +3 on Retreat? Is it Parry 0 or 0F?
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Old 06-17-2014, 01:40 AM   #2
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You're parrying with Bow skill, not a fencing skill, and the only analogy is "as a baton" which has Parry 0, not 0F, so I think Bow "Fencer" is simply fluff. I'd treat it as a DR 6 (heavy-ish) baton wielded with Bow skill.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:14 AM   #3
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From a balance perspective, I don't think giving Bow Fencers another way to boost their defenses is going to help much. Let them live with their unreasonably high Parry but don't boost it any by giving them the Fencing bonus.
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:37 AM   #4
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Are they hurt by encumbrance? Because if they do get 0F then they definitely should be.
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Old 06-17-2014, 08:52 AM   #5
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The word "Fencer" in "Bow Fencer" is pure color. The bow functions as a baton, as the descriptive text suggests, and has a Parry stat of 0, not 0F.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:55 PM   #6
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Didn't someone once propose using an unstrung bow as a short staff? Or is that just a product of my feverish imagination?
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Old 06-17-2014, 05:06 PM   #7
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Didn't someone once propose using an unstrung bow as a short staff? Or is that just a product of my feverish imagination?
That all depends on how you're defining "short staff", I think.

If you look in Basic Set: Characters and Low-Tech, you'll notice that the only difference between the Baton and the Short Staff is that the latter allows a Fencing parry.

However, I think what most people think of as a "short staff" is better statted as a Jo, which is what I'd list a short or regular bow as if used in melee combat (a longbow may qualify - kinda - as a bo staff, which I think uses the Quarterstaff line).
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Old 06-17-2014, 06:39 PM   #8
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If you look in Basic Set: Characters and Low-Tech, you'll notice that the only difference between the Baton and the Short Staff is that the latter allows a Fencing parry.
Yeah. That's what made me think about it and wonder if I was remembering something that had been suggested before, or I made it up myself :?
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