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Old 05-28-2019, 02:37 PM   #31
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Default Re: [Magic] In ceremonial magic, what's the minimum FP expenditure for the leader?

Can we get a reference for the claim that all enchantments of spells with Magery prerequisites are Mage-only items?
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Old 05-28-2019, 02:44 PM   #32
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Can we get a reference for the claim that all enchantments of spells with Magery prerequisites are Mage-only items?
mage = someone with Magery advantage including magery 0.
mage only items are are the one that have mage only effect (p.19 of Magic previouslt quotoe)
Wands allows the User to cast spell
Spells with a Magery prerequisite can only be cast by mages even in High Mana levels that let non mages cast spell., this a a mage only effect.

A magical item the cast spell need an internal power source [like the Power enchantment] before the considered self casting. aka a Wand without the power enchantment the use is the one casting it, ad magery requires need mager to cast not just learn [as desired by the Wild Talent advantage which by passes the learnign requirmen but still require the advantage prerequisites]
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Old 05-28-2019, 03:12 PM   #33
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mage = someone with Magery advantage including magery 0.
mage only items are are the one that have mage only effect (p.19 of Magic previouslt quotoe)
You're misreading what that means. An item is mage only if any of the enchantments has a mage only limitation. Whether an enchantment has a mage only limitation is specified in the 'item' description and has nothing to do with the prerequisites of the spell.
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:31 PM   #34
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Wands are not "always on" magical items
But the fact that an item isn't "always on" doesn't mean it's "mages only". Numerous spells explicitly say the magic item for them is "mages only," but Lend Energy only says, "Wand, staff, or jewelry. Energy cost to create: 100" in the "Item" section. Compare say, Air Jet, which says, "Staff, wand, or jewelry. Usable only by mages; if the item is a staff or wand, the air jet comes from its tip. Energy cost to create: 200" (emphasis mine).
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Old 05-28-2019, 10:04 PM   #35
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Yes, I agree, mage-only items say that they are mage-only. Otherwise, they can potentially be used by anyone who knows what they are used for.
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