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Appearance better than transcendent
So Horrific gives -6 to reaction rolls while Transcendent gives an average of +5 to reaction rolls. In addition, a simple nymph has transcendent appearance (Dungeon Fantasy 3, page 9). How are we supposed to be able to differentiate a mythological creature from a deity?
Therefore, letīs create a new level of superior appearance averaging +6 for the goddess Aphrodite: How could it be called? What would be an appropriate description? Aphrodisiac/Apollonian: Both gods and mortals can not get enough of your devastating beauty/handsomeness and irresistible sensual charms. Your unbearable beauty/handsomeness can even inspire divine awe. Rules: 1. Awe and Terror have already been accounted for. Attractive (+1): You do not fit in beauty contests but you definitely look good. Beautiful/handsome (+4): You could participate in beauty contests. Very beautiful/handsome (+6): You could win beauty contests. In addition, talent hunters, friends, loaders and slave traders are prone to get you in trouble. Transcendentally beautiful/handsome (+8): You have the ideal appearance, being the focus of all kinds of attention by the opposite sex and the winner of most beauty contests. Devastatingly beautiful/handsome (+10): Those who see you never have enough of your devastating beauty. You look like what is depicted as an angel in works of art and your unbearable beauty can even inspire divine awe. Quote:
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12-16-2018, 02:52 AM | #2 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
How about just add the Awe power?
Terror with the Awe table instead of fear
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12-16-2018, 02:56 AM | #3 |
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12-16-2018, 03:11 AM | #4 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
Or you can add Charisma and/or Voice for similar (though not identical) effect.
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12-16-2018, 03:25 AM | #5 |
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12-16-2018, 08:11 AM | #6 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
I note that, as per its description, Transcendent is already supposed to represent the appearance of angels and deities, so creating a level above something which is itself above the range of human experience seems unnecessary. The idea in the RAW appears to be that there is an actual limit on perceivable appearance modifiers, beyond which you need to use other traits to indicate worse or better reaction mods. If I were going to symmetrize the Appearance levels, I'd rather get rid of Horrific.
For words which might be used to name a hypothetical appearance level above Transcendent, you might use Singular, or Unearthly. |
12-16-2018, 09:20 AM | #7 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
There are examples in fiction of characters having appearance which has far greater effect on those around them than Trancendant would. I see little reason to not make appearance open ended just like charisma is and let the limit be dictated by the setting of a particular game rather than the general rules.
Why would only a single level above "human experience" be useful? Depending on the setting, the range of appearance availiable to beutiful deities might be far broader than that of mortals. |
12-16-2018, 09:45 AM | #8 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
Could we possibly apply a limitation to Charisma like "must be seen" ?
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12-16-2018, 10:13 AM | #9 | |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
Awe doesn't have the same game effects as reaction modifiers. It inflicts things like mental stun, ecstasy, and Slave Mentality.
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My solution for this particular setting is to give Elves some variety by making their Appearance range from Handsome/Beautiful to Transcendant. I'm also working on interpolated Appearance levels between the RAW levels, and added levels above Transcendant. Like so: Divine plus Awe: used for more-than-Divine Appearance Divine: +9 attracted to your sex, +5 otherwise; average +7 [32] Unearthly/Semidivine: +9 attracted to your sex, +3 otherwise; average +6 [24] Transcendant: +8 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise; average +5 [20] Exceedingly Handsome/Beautiful: +7 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise [18] Very Handsome/Beautiful: +6 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise; average +4 [16] Quite Handsome/Beautiful: +5 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise [14] Handsome/Beautiful: +4 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise; average +3 [12] Quite Pretty: +3 attracted to your sex, +2 otherwise [10] Pretty: +2 [8] Attractive: +1 [4] Average: +0 [0] Unattractive: -1 [-4] Ugly: -2 [-8] Very Ugly: -3 [-12] Hideous: -4 [-16] Monstrous: -5 [-20] Horrific: -6 [-24] The interpolated Quite Pretty, Quite Handsome, and Exceedingly Handsome can't be used with Androgynous or Impressive, but otherwise I'm hopeful this makes sense.
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12-16-2018, 10:29 AM | #10 |
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Re: Appearance better than transcendent
If you really want a total "tilt" for humanoid perceptions of beauty, maybe there should be a GM fiat advantage. Any mere mortal viewing the god will automatically have an excellent reaction regardless.
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