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Re: Can you Parry a Bear?
Parry does not mean shield block but with a weapon. It's a bunch of different things that are conflated for ease of game play.
And unless your hand and wrist are literally tougher than metal, properly made blades will not break before you do except under very specific rare situations.
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But making it 3.6lbs doesn't really solve the problem (it less than the 3x weight threshold for a long sword, and way less than than the 1xBL for not being possible to be parried) For the me the issue isn't weather or not the long sword breaks, but weather or not you'll be able to meaningfully parry a 800lb bear swinging at you or keep hold of your sword while attempting to do so! Your grip will break long before your sword will. Basically there are two aspects in Parrying heavy weapons: 1). the chances of weapon breakage that's based on thresholds of multiples of parrying weapon weight. and 2). the hard and fast what you can't parry and will be disarming if you try at all based on BL. To me they interrelate weirdly here Last edited by Tomsdad; 05-25-2017 at 09:44 AM. |
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Re: Can you Parry a Bear?
It's not 'eight hundred pounds of bear aimed at your sword'; it's 'one extended limb of a creature that weighs eight hundred pounds being deflected far enough from its path to miss your body'. There's far (FAR) more to a 'parry' than simply putting your weapon directly in the path of the swing and letting it take all the force involved.
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But in reality most armed martial arts (and so parries) were developed with facing a relatively similar opponent in mind. Not bears three times your weight. Now I have no problem with an attempted parry hurting the bear, and as I said I don't think a bear swipe will break the sword. But as I said I have issues with the two effects of parrying heavier attacks work together. I'd be tempted to ditch the chances of breaking full stop (barring unusual circumstances your grip will break before your weapon does**), and instead have some kind penalty to parry heaver and heavier attacks. Another way is let the bear do a "beat" against a parrying weapon. This will use up the bear's turn after it get parried but with ST19 it likely going to win the context against most people. * I don't know what kind of fighting you do but think about how you redirect such blows and how much you use the structure of the incoming weapon to do so, and how it might not apply that well to bear arms. **the broken weapon is a bit of troupe that is over represented in fiction I think Last edited by Tomsdad; 05-25-2017 at 09:55 AM. |
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Re: Can you Parry a Bear?
Yes. Someone who can swing a bear is stronger in his arms than the bear is in his front limbs.
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